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Re:Is It O.K. To Kill Cyclists? by klochner on Wednesday September 10, 2014 @06:05PM (#8299470)
If there is no bike lane, then legally you shouldn't be passing a cyclist unless it is a passing zone (broken yellow or white line), in which case you should have plenty of room to use the opposing lane.

If it's a solid line with no bike lane, then it's the same as if you were passing a car, i.e., illegal. I've been ticketed for that in SF.

Re:Is It O.K. To Kill Cyclists? by donatj on Wednesday September 10, 2014 @06:13PM (#8299528)
And this is the problem, people going 8 miles per hour in a 40 mile per hour lane isn't safe for that person.
Re:Is It O.K. To Kill Cyclists? by arrrg on Wednesday September 10, 2014 @06:20PM (#8299563)
Just slow down for a bit. It won’t kill you (nor anyone else).
Re:Is It O.K. To Kill Cyclists? by hsod on Wednesday September 10, 2014 @07:06PM (#8299799)
No, but in the aggregate the loss of efficiency + wasted fuel has a real social cost, which shouldn't be dismissed so glibly.

Cyclists significantly slowing traffic on major arterials IS a problem and sanctimonious truisms are not the solution. The solution is bike lanes or entire separate "bike arterials" which run parallel to "car arterials" so the two wildly different transportation mechanisms don't get in each others way too much.

Re:Is It O.K. To Kill Cyclists? by auxbuss on Wednesday September 10, 2014 @07:31PM (#8299914)
The solution is for all road-users to continuously adapt to what's happening around them. Folk who aren't capable of that shouldn't be allowed on the road.

Cyclists are not a problem. They are a group of road-users. Equally entitled to use the roads as every other legal road-user.

Re:Is It O.K. To Kill Cyclists? by copperheart on Thursday September 11, 2014 @02:38PM (#8304319)
Please explain how you think cyclists are equally entitled to use a road that was built solely for motor vehicles.
Re:Is It O.K. To Kill Cyclists? by auxbuss on Thursday September 11, 2014 @05:10PM (#8305175)
I got down-voted for this!

After n years. Time to sign out from HN.

Re:Is It O.K. To Kill Cyclists? by dllthomas on Thursday September 11, 2014 @05:18PM (#8305208)
Random stuff gets downvoted sometimes. It might not even have been intentional, what with no way to correct it. Obviously some people disagree with your statement, though, so who knows.
Re:Is It O.K. To Kill Cyclists? by jack-r-abbit on Wednesday September 10, 2014 @09:54PM (#8300455)
"Share the road? Then share the rules!"(tm)
Re:Is It O.K. To Kill Cyclists? by soneil on Wednesday September 10, 2014 @07:47PM (#8299975)
Slowing down is a social cost, but killing people isn't?
Re:Is It O.K. To Kill Cyclists? by hsod on Wednesday September 10, 2014 @09:19PM (#8300354)
Which part of my post implied that I think that? Was it the part where I specifically suggested a solution that would keep cyclists safe and speed up traffic?
Re:Is It O.K. To Kill Cyclists? by mattwad on Wednesday September 10, 2014 @06:15PM (#8299537)
By problem, you mean there are not enough bike lines? I agree :)
Re:Is It O.K. To Kill Cyclists? by sjtrny on Wednesday September 10, 2014 @06:25PM (#8299596)
It's not a 40mph lane. It's an up to 40mph lane.
Re:Is It O.K. To Kill Cyclists? by dragonwriter on Wednesday September 10, 2014 @06:49PM (#8299725)
It depends whether you are referring to a lane with a posted speed limit of 40mph or one which the normal speed of traffic is 40mph. In California, both the posted speed limit and the normal speed of traffic are legally-significant values (particularly, there are significant legal rules that come into play for both vehicles in general and bicycles in particular that are being operated at less than the normal speed of traffic.)
Re:Is It O.K. To Kill Cyclists? by fleitz on Wednesday September 10, 2014 @06:53PM (#8299744)
It's a minimum 40 mph lane.