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Re:Breaking up with America by owenmarshall on Monday September 08, 2014 @09:32PM (#8288296)
I can't speak to specific companies.

On aggregate, H1B workers are being paid less than non-H1B workers. It doesn't take long to see this in action: http://www.foreignlaborcert.doleta.gov/performancedata.cfm#s... -- click around and ask yourself if those average wages look right. My state's average wage was what you'd pay a person coming straight out of college.

I'd definitely wager that if you compared all Microsoft H1B software engineers to all non-H1B MS SE's, you'd see a drop in wages. But I don't have a reliable indication of non-H1B salaries at MS, so I can't say for sure.

Re:Breaking up with America by seanmcdirmid on Monday September 08, 2014 @09:44PM (#8288335)
> I'd definitely wager that if you compared all Microsoft H1B software engineers to all non-H1B MS SE's, you'd see a drop in wages.

Why would you think this?

That information is publicly available; e.g. http://www.myvisajobs.com/Visa-Sponsor/Microsoft/356252_Sala...

I'm not sure what the "average salaries" for non-immigrants are, but you can get an idea here:

http://www.salarylist.com/company/Microsoft-Salary.htm

It doesn't look that different.

Re:Breaking up with America by owenmarshall on Monday September 08, 2014 @11:37PM (#8288633)
> Why would you think this?

Because that's been the pattern for most businesses. I doubt Microsoft is any different - why do you think it would be?

> It doesn't look that different.

The two pages you present compare "all MS salaries, globally" to "all MS H1B salaries, globally" - that's a meaningless comparison. A software engineer H1B is going to make more than a non-H1B tester.

Note again, I'm not trying to indict MS for anything here: I'm simply betting that MS is enjoying lower worker costs by employing H1B workers, just like many IT companies do.

I hope that's not the case, both for the H1B worker AND non-H1B workers.

Re:Breaking up with America by seanmcdirmid on Monday September 08, 2014 @11:48PM (#8288652)
From my limited experience, H1Bs seem to make as much as non-H1Bs. But then I work in China as an American on a work visa.