Re:Dataless Programming (1967) [pdf]
by CGamesPlay on Monday September 01, 2014 @08:29PM
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This appears to roughly describe a precursor to SQL, which appeared 7 years after this document. This was definitely a common problem. Imagine building your most recent application, but not having easy access to an SQL-backed ORM. How would you go about implementing it? The data model would definitely heavily confound your attempts to build a clean system.
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> The data model would definitely heavily confound your attempts to build a clean system.
Can you expand on that. I build systems that don't use an ORM but still requires interfacing with a SQL database so I'm curious how one ends up writing "unclean" systems if not using an ORM. Sure, if you've got SQL all over your code-base that's bad but if you were to use the repository pattern it would be as if you were using an ORM in your code-base except within the repository itself.
Re:Dataless Programming (1967) [pdf]
by CGamesPlay on Tuesday September 02, 2014 @12:50PM
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I actually equated using SQL to using ORM in my comment since I imagined most people would be using one, but imagine if you didn't have SQL and you had to store the data on a file system yourself.