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Re:A call to arms: Helping Internet services accept anonymou... by jacquesm on Sunday August 31, 2014 @06:02PM (#8250529)
Instead of calling upon others to push yet others to accept anonymous users why not rebuild these services and show the world how easy it is to deal with anonymous users wreaking havoc on your website?
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Re:A call to arms: Helping Internet services accept anonymou... by bicknergseng on Sunday August 31, 2014 @11:16PM (#8251364)
Not to mention the total absence of anonymous user monetization strategies.
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Re:A call to arms: Helping Internet services accept anonymou... by erik123 on Monday September 01, 2014 @02:37AM (#8251751)
Yes, this entire privacy scare is an opportunity to get rid of the advert-based business model and offer the opportunity to privacy-conscious users to get the same or a better service, in exchange for a few bitcoin cents, instead of getting tracked so that the jackals can better precision-bomb you with false commercial messages.
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Re:A call to arms: Helping Internet services accept anonymou... by dspillett on Monday September 01, 2014 @04:46AM (#8252030)
> to get rid of the advert-based business model and offer the opportunity to privacy-conscious users to get the same or a better service, in exchange for a few bitcoin cents

Great in theory, but people in general do not understand the advertising model or just don't care enough about being tracked that the micro-payment alternative is attractive to them (even if there is a method of making it essentially anonymous and untrackable). I'd be happy to pay small amounts for an ad-free un-tracked experience, as may you, but we are in a minority small enough that it isn't worth chasing (and to be frank, I'm cynical enough to not believe I won't be tracked (more than just to ensure I got what the payment covered) even if I did pay...

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Re:A call to arms: Helping Internet services accept anonymou... by aianus on Monday September 01, 2014 @07:26AM (#8252370)
Anonymous users still see ads. Even targeted ads, if they're based on usage (like who you're following on Twitter or what subreddits you're subscribed to).
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Re:A call to arms: Helping Internet services accept anonymou... by erik123 on Monday September 01, 2014 @02:32AM (#8251745)
Exactly. You have posted exactly what I wanted to post but you've bested me ;-) This is not a problem at all. This is an opportunity. That is what the non-profits at the Tor project do not see, exactly because they are non-profits. They do not see that every problem is a dreamed-of opportunity -- because you can work on solving it -- and when you've solved it, you can collect nominal peanut fees from the users in order to get rich.
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