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Re:Live map of Russia advancing into Ukraine by foobarqux on Thursday August 28, 2014 @12:28PM (#8238083)
Did you know that the United States navy shot down an Iranian commercial airliner in 1988? How do you think that was reported in western media compared to how MH17 was reported?
Re:Live map of Russia advancing into Ukraine by Paradigma11 on Thursday August 28, 2014 @04:39PM (#8239574)
Re:Live map of Russia advancing into Ukraine by foobarqux on Thursday August 28, 2014 @11:06PM (#8240952)
Yes, notice in the first article the copious justification and lack of denunciation or demonization. Completely different from MH17.
Re:Live map of Russia advancing into Ukraine by Paradigma11 on Friday August 29, 2014 @03:49AM (#8241516)
The first article reports the "copious" justification given by other sources. Please show me the denunciation and demonization in NYT or WP articles regarding MH17. It's also rather different since the culpable party owned up to the tragedy rather than trying to blame the other party. And this after celebrating the (mistaken) kill on social media...
Re:Live map of Russia advancing into Ukraine by foobarqux on Friday August 29, 2014 @04:19PM (#8244334)
> The first article reports the "copious" justification given by other sources

Which isn't done when it is the enemy. Here is a media analysis of the Iranian downing with the downing of a Korean airliner by Russia during the same period. http://fair.org/extra-online-articles/kal-007-and-iran-air-6...

Here are examples for MH17 after cursory searches (imagine swapping Russia/US in the sentences).

https://twitter.com/fstonenyt/status/489926529619476480

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/19/opinion/malaysia-airlines-...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/22/opinion/roger-cohen-malays...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/05/opinion/masha-gessen-does-...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/22/opinion/Putins-Unconvincin...

This isn't to equate Russian and American propaganda, only pointing out the material and serious distortions of western media.

Re:Live map of Russia advancing into Ukraine by philwelch on Thursday August 28, 2014 @02:59PM (#8239056)
Compared to how MH17 was reported in Russian media? I think the Iranian incident was pretty admirably covered by that standard.
Re:Live map of Russia advancing into Ukraine by foobarqux on Thursday August 28, 2014 @04:10PM (#8239419)
No, how western media reported each incident. Virtually identical incidents (as close as you can get in history anyway), but completely different portrayals.