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Re:Live map of Russia advancing into Ukraine by IgorPartola on Thursday August 28, 2014 @12:28PM (#8238078)
I appreciate a reasoned response. However:

1. Propaganda: in Russia, the media is very tightly controlled by the Kremlin. This is not the case in the US and most Western countries. Russia can use propaganda easily, and it is in their interest. The stories come out of their media are suspiciously different from any other stories from anywhere else. Simplest explanation: they are using propaganda, or at least coloring stories for their benefit.

2. The Ukrainian government is a joke. It was a joke when Yanukovych was in power too. It will continue being a joke until Ukraine is left alone to figure its shit out. You cannot expect a country that's been independent for under 25 years to do things perfectly. For a great example of countries that are democratic, yet get stuff wrong all the time see most Western countries.

3. The Ukrainian government did not cause all of this. Putin has a motive to invade Ukraine (rebulding USSR as his legacy) and an opportunity: currently nobody will oppose him and he has the upper hand militarily. Do you think he is so easily offended that something the Ukrainian government said will cause him to do something like this?

Re:Live map of Russia advancing into Ukraine by foobarqux on Thursday August 28, 2014 @12:33PM (#8238122)
1. Western media consistently represents pro-state messages even without direct state control. This is for structural reasons (read Manufacturing Consent).

2. The US is definitely not "leaving Ukraine alone".

3. Typical jejeune analysis that reduces geopolitics to ego and personality defects (and only criticizing those of one side)

Re:Live map of Russia advancing into Ukraine by nokiaman on Thursday August 28, 2014 @12:54PM (#8238286)
Here's an air-strike on a civilian area, and a probable war crime committed by the Ukrainian government. It's gory, it's sickening. How many reporters from the Free Press covered this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=I91...

All sides must be held to account for any crimes committed. However, it's hard to have any kind of rational discussion when so many people have a Pavlovian reaction to the word "Russia" (and "China").

I have no dog in this fight, but it seems like even normally rational and logic-minded programmers and hackers are not immune to conditioning over a period of time.

Re:Live map of Russia advancing into Ukraine by IgorPartola on Thursday August 28, 2014 @11:23PM (#8240971)
Re:Live map of Russia advancing into Ukraine by duhast on Thursday August 28, 2014 @02:05PM (#8238760)
Why Donbas terrorists use civilians as human shields?