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Re:GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance by jessaustin on Wednesday August 20, 2014 @11:57PM (#8205874)
...it's not the prosecutors' fault that the evidence of what Swartz did was sufficient to cause a grand jury to indict...

...a ham sandwich.

Please, let's not pretend that anything happens in a grand jury that is not completely controlled by prosecutors.

Re:GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance by mpyne on Thursday August 21, 2014 @08:00PM (#8210329)
If there was no evidence to convict then Aaron had nothing to worry about, ham sandwich or not.
Re:GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance by jessaustin on Friday August 22, 2014 @08:41PM (#8214583)
I don't think even most prosecutors would have the balls to say something as fucked-up as that. One who scoffs at the threat of criminal court proceedings, in this nation, does so from a very privileged position. A more charitable person than I would hope you never have the misfortune to discover how wrong you are.
Re:GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance by mpyne on Saturday August 23, 2014 @11:26AM (#8216008)
What I'm saying is that you cannot have your cake here and eat it too.

Strong laws? Great, you'll have an Aaron Swartz every 5 years at least, especially as long as those laws continue to make common-sense computer crimes like breaking into a subnet (now matter how easy or difficult that was to do technically!) legal crimes as well.

Weak laws? That's fine too, but don't be surprised what a dedicated "advanced persistent threat" can do under a weak legal regime.

Re:GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance by jessaustin on Monday August 25, 2014 @11:51AM (#8222272)
That is not at all my interpretation of your other comments on this page, but let's go with it...

If APT were "real" instead of marketing/lobbyist bullshit, like "al Queda" and "the domino theory", what could we imagine "strong laws" doing to combat it? Does anyone suggest we pull a Baghdad in Shanghai or St. Petersburg? How strong is a law that can't be enforced, really?