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Re:Elon Musk’s SpaceX Is Raising Money at a Valuation Approa... by idlewords on Tuesday August 19, 2014 @11:59AM (#8198031)
In 1999 it was pretty obvious that if Moore's Law held up as expected, you could do all kinds of stuff within a few years.

Until we see rocket fuel doubling in energy every eighteen months, any idea of a Mars mission (let alone colony) paid for with private money is wishful thinking.

Re:Elon Musk’s SpaceX Is Raising Money at a Valuation Approa... by TheLoneWolfling on Tuesday August 19, 2014 @12:39PM (#8198296)
That's assuming conventional rocketry all the way.

Have you heard of the phrase "once you're in orbit, you're halfway to anywhere" (Robert Heinlein)?

The delta-v from LEO to mars is only ~4.6 km/s assuming you aerobrake once you're in orbit. Or 3.8 if you're doing aerocapture.

For comparison, it costs ~10 km/s just to get into LEO.

Remember the tyranny of the rocket equation. Saving the rocket fuel required to get into orbit drops the total fuel cost by an absurd proportion.

We already have the tech for being able to do at least an order-of-magnitude drop in price to orbit, if not more. Launch loop, etc. (With a launch loop you need ~120m/s additional to get into LEO, but that's peanuts comparatively.) The biggest issue currently is that it's a lot of money to potentially build. And the political components.

Yeah, it'd be a huge chunk of change to build. But it's potentially worth it.

As crackpot ideas go, the launch loop (or variants thereof), is the one that I am (still) most excited for.

Re:Elon Musk’s SpaceX Is Raising Money at a Valuation Approa... by JoeAltmaier on Tuesday August 19, 2014 @12:01PM (#8198045)
The 'microwave thruster' article posted recently circumvents that problem - no reaction mass necessary. A Mars mission is now supposed to be practical, energywise.
Re:Elon Musk’s SpaceX Is Raising Money at a Valuation Approa... by idlewords on Tuesday August 19, 2014 @12:04PM (#8198061)
Oh yeah! And the rocket can use faster-than-light neutrinos to avoid annoying latency when talking to Houston.