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Re:Java 9 features announced by Guvante on Monday August 18, 2014 @06:30PM (#8195071)
> Others have noted that in many contexts in C# there is a difference, so clients do need to know.

Which is why C# added automatic properties. You get the expandability without breaking clients or having to read/write extra code.

    public int Foo { get; set; }
Re:Java 9 features announced by Renaud on Monday August 18, 2014 @08:26PM (#8195431)
Which becomes even more useful over a field when you can do:

    public int Foo { get; private set; }
Re:Java 9 features announced by marvy on Tuesday August 19, 2014 @03:15AM (#8196286)
Last time I checked (long ago), properties in C# don't work as ref or out parameters. Since C# actually distinguishes between ref and out parameters, it would be pretty easy to extend the language such that properties work whenever fields work, but sadly no one but me seems to care.
Re:Java 9 features announced by Guvante on Tuesday August 19, 2014 @01:05PM (#8198459)
See the following example for why that is excluded.

    public string Foo { get { return ""; } }

    private void DoBar(ref string input) { input = "123"; }

    public void Main() { DoBar(ref Foo); }
Typically C# points you towards using a different methodology than ref/out parameters. But I do agree it is annoying when you want to use them.