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Re:Edward Snowden: The Untold Story by yardie on Wednesday August 13, 2014 @04:05PM (#8174760)
A terrorist organisation has established a caliphate state in a country the US formerly occupied and control. If they are being coy about it they must love taking pie in the face. It doesn't look like it, that is a fact. The US doesn't have an answer to these guys. There is no upside to us losing influence in a region to a terrorist organisation and then letting them embed themselves as a valid government. How did that play out for us last time?

Also, you have it backwards, ISIS started in Iraq, (the second I) and spread to Syria (second S). They started with the instability in Iraq, saw the instability in Syria, and went for it.

1) support at home has never stopped the US military from engaging before. 2) We didn't have much before, we have way less now. 3) you find new friends when your old friends stop taking your phone call.

Re:Edward Snowden: The Untold Story by lotsofmangos on Wednesday August 13, 2014 @11:05PM (#8175874)
"There is no upside to us losing influence in a region to a terrorist organisation and then letting them embed themselves as a valid government."

The US and UK never properly seized control in Iraq. We were losing troops on a daily basis. Now we have withdrawn, leaving an entirely predictable power vacuum, things have got so mental that even Iran is collaborating with us, and they are currently the main external force now loosing troops in the area. Also, this new caliphate is completely surrounded by folk who really do not like them. To be honest the whole thing looks like a deliberate trap, that is probably going to be used as a drone proving ground, given the political statements about use of troops.

Re:Edward Snowden: The Untold Story by nostrademons on Wednesday August 13, 2014 @04:43PM (#8174920)
The huge variable being ignored here: the sustained high price of oil along with technological breakthroughs has made extraction of oil shale economical. The U.S. has the largest reserves of oil shale in the world, over twice the total recoverable oil reserves of Saudi Arabia. My sister is a petroleum geologist: a large proportion of oil production has moved back domestically over the last 5 years.

Most recent geopolitical shifts can be traced back to the Middle East no longer being strategically important to U.S. interests any more. In 2007 we were worried that rising oil prices would trigger a financial crisis that would severely hurt American interests; controlling mid-east oil was critically important. By 2010 the financial crisis had happened, it was clear that gas prices were not coming down, and oil production was moving back domestically. There was no longer any reason for us to be in Iraq, so Obama got us out, and as far as the U.S. is concerned the Middle East can collapse into the Dark Ages and we won't care, as long as they leave Israel alone. So far ISIS has been more anti-Palestine than anti-Israel.

Re:Edward Snowden: The Untold Story by Shivetya on Thursday August 14, 2014 @09:50AM (#8177433)
Consider we the public do not know all the details nor do we know the thinking of the defense department all we can do is arm chair quarterback.

for all we know the effect ISIS is having may have been predicted and even worse, allowed to play out. From a military standpoint, they are burning off manpower and munitions that would otherwise be directed towards elements we want to protect or have interests in. Until that changes, like with all those refugees recently, I doubt we would act.

Lately US foreign policy seems vindictive rather than friendly. As in, when someone does not treat the Administration how they think they deserve or do not do what it wants the Administration gets petty.