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Re:Ask HN: I was hired and unhired in 2 weeks, for no reason by guybrushT on Friday August 08, 2014 @12:27PM (#8153637)
You articulated the situation (and my thinking) very well. Any thoughts on what future early employees could do to protect themselves?
Re:Ask HN: I was hired and unhired in 2 weeks, for no reason by patio11 on Friday August 08, 2014 @12:51PM (#8153777)
If somebody for some reason managed to convince me to come onboard as an employee, and I was asked nicely to leave after two weeks, I would begin the conversation with "That is unfortunate and unexpected, as I was looking forward to working with you guys. We're all businessmen here, so we know that there are certain reasonable expectations which one has with regards to employment offers. I shouldn't be telling you anything you don't already know when I say that this is highly irregular. It would not be irregular if I were, say, a consultant. If you want to retroactively treat our arrangement as a consulting arrangement, I'm amenable to that reclassification, because I like you and wish you to succeed. I will send you a copy of my standard Master Services Agreement and a Statement of Work for two weeks work. You will sign them, as written. I will then invoice you for my standard consulting rate, which is $60,000 for two weeks. You will pay it and we will part ways as friends."

And then I'd see where it took me from there.

Re:Ask HN: I was hired and unhired in 2 weeks, for no reason by guybrushT on Friday August 08, 2014 @01:07PM (#8153880)
This is a reasonable approach. I will try this.

Sidenote: In my last discussion, some of the phrasing was eerily similar - "That is unfortunate and unexpected, as I was looking forward to working with you guys" - "we're businessmen here" - "part ways as friends".. etc. Just that I didn't push for what you are suggesting. Thanks again!

Re:Ask HN: I was hired and unhired in 2 weeks, for no reason by reinhardt on Friday August 08, 2014 @01:15PM (#8153932)
Good luck convincing them to shell out 60K for two weeks. If they could afford it, they'd probably could afford throwing 30K more and keeping him for a year.
Re:Ask HN: I was hired and unhired in 2 weeks, for no reason by patio11 on Friday August 08, 2014 @01:37PM (#8154040)
In Japan we have a distinction between what we say on the outside and what we think on the inside.

Outside: "You can't afford $60k? Oh, you're smart guys, I'm sure you can figure it out if it is a priority for you."

Inside: "Horsepuckey, YC company, cry me more tears about your inability to find tens of thousands of dollars when you're a mortal lock on a seed round and presumably on the glide path to an A."

Re:Ask HN: I was hired and unhired in 2 weeks, for no reason by tptacek on Friday August 08, 2014 @06:02PM (#8155300)
They don't have to pay it up front; they can draft an agreement to defer compensation to their next round of funding or to their first $N dollars of revenue, pay him the immediately owed "salary" number today, and pay the delta later.