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Re:Let's Build a Traditional City and Make a Profit by rdtsc on Wednesday July 30, 2014 @10:51PM (#8112240)
That was part it. I grew up in an apartment building with solid concrete walls (so sound proofing for certain frequencies was good) but top neighbours have flooded us a few times. Public transportation was so-so. And getting places wasn't convenient always. Shopping for food involved walking more than we wanted (especially in cold or rain). It wasn't terrible and I can see benefits to it, but it was also not that great either. I had a choice and made the choice to live in the suburbs, and it was rather hypocritical, because I could easily see myself nodding and agreeing with most of the criticisms about the suburban life.
Re:Let's Build a Traditional City and Make a Profit by bane on Thursday July 31, 2014 @12:11AM (#8112420)
> Public transportation was so-so. And getting places wasn't convenient always. Shopping for food involved walking more than we wanted (especially in cold or rain). It wasn't terrible and I can see benefits to it, but it was also not that great either.

Before I was 10 I lived in an urban area. It was pretty much exactly this. After that we moved to an ultra-rural area. When I was old enough I swore I would move back and I did, but within a couple years realized that there are lots of downsides exactly as you describe here. I'd add that close proximity to near constant violence is also a problem in many urban areas.

I finally left when my downstairs neighbor was violently stabbed in his own apartment.

This was in one of the low-crime areas.

Re:Let's Build a Traditional City and Make a Profit by dhagz on Wednesday July 30, 2014 @11:35PM (#8112344)
Just because you can see the flaws doesn't mean you're hypocritical. There are legitimate issues involved with suburbia.