With immigration reform off the agenda, some in tech turn to plan B

Re:With immigration reform off the agenda, some in tech turn... by HistoryInAction on Sunday July 27, 2014 @02:34PM (#8093529)

^ This is the exact debate that should be avoided for startups to be successful in driving through ANY change through DC.

I don't know enough to say what the correct position is on H-1Bs, but I know that many people believe strongly in both sides. We're too small a community to solve the problem here, so all we can do is be caught up in it and have our proposals die like flies on a spider's web.

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Re:With immigration reform off the agenda, some in tech turn... by x0x0 on Sunday July 27, 2014 @03:21PM (#8093683)

and that's exactly why we need the debate: so businesses can't buy themselves a self-serving change

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Re:With immigration reform off the agenda, some in tech turn... by HistoryInAction on Sunday July 27, 2014 @03:33PM (#8093718)

The debate is going on already. Businesses either will or won't be able to buy themselves a self-serving change. But that debate is at a level much higher than that which the startup community can influence.

When I say we in this case, I mean the HN crowd and similar. We as in Americans can debate this issue all you like. But if I want a startup visa, then I want to avoid getting caught up in the H-1B debate.

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Re:With immigration reform off the agenda, some in tech turn... by x0x0 on Sunday July 27, 2014 @03:53PM (#8093786)

As an employee, I don't particularly want a startup visa: I'm neutral to slightly negative on the idea. But certainly we -- as employees -- should get something in exchange for support. That's how the legislative process works. Bluntly: you're attempting to use support from the startup community to actively buy the change you want while, as employees, we get nothing in return.

A bargain! For you.

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