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Re:The New York Times Calls for Marijuana Legalization by cobrausn on Saturday July 26, 2014 @07:26PM (#8091236)
Because you basically just advocated prohibition of alcohol, drugs, and tobacco, and included in your list of reasons 'I don't like the smell'.

Never mind that prohibition was already tried and already failed.

Re:The New York Times Calls for Marijuana Legalization by nick_riviera on Saturday July 26, 2014 @07:31PM (#8091253)
Well I'll add one more:

The physical and mental health problems and associated healthcare burden.

This is not insignificant and totally shrugged off by the "pro-legalisation" side of things.

Re:The New York Times Calls for Marijuana Legalization by HeyImAlex on Saturday July 26, 2014 @07:47PM (#8091314)
The first time I smoked marijuana I was 13 years old; prohibition doesn't work, and while MJ has its burdens, prohibition has far more. We should focus on treating the addicted as human beings needing help rather than criminals to be thrown into prison.
Re:The New York Times Calls for Marijuana Legalization by nick_riviera on Saturday July 26, 2014 @07:48PM (#8091319)
Isn't prevention better than cure?

People keep saying "prohibition didn't work" but I'm hard pressed to find a conclusive paper on the subject. Perhaps you could enlighten me?

Edit: Ask for proof/sources = down vote. Hey everyone, fuck science.

Re:The New York Times Calls for Marijuana Legalization by HeyImAlex on Saturday July 26, 2014 @08:46PM (#8091491)
> Isn't prevention better than cure?

That's oversimplifying; couldn't we drastically reduce the number of automotive deaths by outlawing driving?

Marijuana isn't an absolute evil with no redeeming qualities, and prohibition brings along a bevy of its own problems. So then we're really talking about which method, legalization or prohibition, is better in the aggregate.

When I say that prohibition doesn't work, I'm talking literally; something like a third of people in the US have smoked marijuana, and a sizable percentage (including me, a productive salaried software developer) smoke regularly despite the potential legal ramifications. I've gone on vacation with no connects and found a dealer inside of a day, which is to say that no one who wants to smoke is being stopped by prohibition.

When you take that with all of the bad things that prohibition causes, I don't know how you can rationalize its continuation.

Re:The New York Times Calls for Marijuana Legalization by dragonwriter on Saturday July 26, 2014 @08:51PM (#8091503)
> Isn't prevention better than cure?

Sure, but prohibition isn't prevention.

> People keep saying "prohibition didn't work" but I'm hard pressed to find a conclusive paper on the subject.

Assuming, arguendo, your suggestion that there is no conclusive evidence on the effectiveness of prohibition, then, given the money, lives, etc. that have been expended on prohibition, the absence of conclusive evidence of its effectiveness is, itself, a pretty strong reason not to keep tossing lives and treasure into that pit.

Re:The New York Times Calls for Marijuana Legalization by ScottBurson on Saturday July 26, 2014 @08:06PM (#8091387)
I guess you're in the UK so you're unfamiliar with the American experiment with alcohol prohibition. Here's a good starting point: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_State...
Re:The New York Times Calls for Marijuana Legalization by grosbs on Saturday July 26, 2014 @08:01PM (#8091375)
Hey, light up dude. Take a puff, you'll see how fallacious your comments are.
Re:The New York Times Calls for Marijuana Legalization by Zigurd on Saturday July 26, 2014 @08:57PM (#8091513)
Actually, the cost of addiction recovery for all drugs other than alcohol is small, literally to the point of insignificance in most cases, compared to the cost of alcohol abuse and addiction, and ridiculously small compared to the cost of the Drug War.

in other words, by any rational measure, it's a risk worth taking.

Re:The New York Times Calls for Marijuana Legalization by orangecat on Saturday July 26, 2014 @11:04PM (#8091809)
This is not insignificant

Well, today we already have those costs, plus the even larger costs of law enforcement. The choice is not between "pot is illegal and nobody uses it" and "pot is legal and it causes social problems".

Re:The New York Times Calls for Marijuana Legalization by cobrausn on Saturday July 26, 2014 @07:32PM (#8091260)
We are already dealing with those problems, legal or not. At least if we legalize and tax it we have a means of paying for it.
Re:The New York Times Calls for Marijuana Legalization by lbarrow on Saturday July 26, 2014 @08:29PM (#8091441)
We already have those problems -- how will legalizing pot make them worse?