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Re:EFF Asks Judge to Rule NSA Internet Backbone Spying Techn... by PavlovsCat on Saturday July 26, 2014 @06:37AM (#8089406)
> Presidents being shot. Planes flying into buildings. A nuclear weapon or any bomb being detonated inside of the country are all things that I do not want to happen. I don't know how to prevent these without SIGINT dominance.

I don't think they can be prevented with "SIGINT dominance" either.

But more importantly, to me: the idea of consitutional and human rights is that it was agreed, roughtly, that "these things are required to live a dignified, free life". Not literally, but I do think that is the rough idea. So taking away from that is akin to killing everybody. It's not even burning the village to save the village, it's burning the whole village to save a tiny part of it.

In a follow-upp comment you said "when we are talking about peoples lives, it's worth saving as many as possible in my opinion" and I agree. For example, stop mass surveillance, stop selling weapons like candy, persecute war criminals (I mean the ones having a ball and getting invited to gala dinners on home soil, not the ones around the globe in areas of geostrategic interest), that sort of stuff. Otherwise, I'll stick with believing a lot of "security" stuff is just lip service, a way to transfer tax payer money into private pockets without achieving anything other than more control of the domestic population. I'm not talking about cogs in the machine, mind you, but the machine itself. I don't doubt many people in the NSA or elsewhere have good intentions, I just think that's worth very little in the bigger scheme of things.

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