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Re:Obama presses to end corporate trick for evading taxes by wyager on Friday July 25, 2014 @02:44PM (#8086871)
>How unpatriotic is that? Deserters!

Yeah! Nationalism! Everyone should put the interests of a blob of land delineated by imaginary lines above their own!

Can we stick to arguments not based on nationalist fervor?

Re:Obama presses to end corporate trick for evading taxes by diminoten on Friday July 25, 2014 @02:57PM (#8086948)
...he says while sipping a glass of nationally funded water, on his computer which arrived via nationally funded sea ports, which sends data over nationally funded computer networks, using a protocol developed with national funding.
Re:Obama presses to end corporate trick for evading taxes by wyager on Friday July 25, 2014 @03:19PM (#8087091)
>he says while sipping a glass of nationally funded water

The water wasn't created by the government, the government didn't build the pipes carrying it to my house, and any first world country could have helped to facilitate this glass of water just as much as the country I happen to inhabit.

>using a protocol developed with national funding

Along with contributions from Xerox, BBN, UCL, a number of US universities... And why, exactly, does the fact that a government partially funded a nice project mean that nationalism is a good motive?

Re:Obama presses to end corporate trick for evading taxes by diminoten on Friday July 25, 2014 @03:24PM (#8087115)
This is a tax debate, and with any tax debate, it's worth remembering what our tax dollars get us. It seems like you're equating "nationalism" with "government", which is most certainly too broad.
Re:Obama presses to end corporate trick for evading taxes by wyager on Friday July 25, 2014 @04:04PM (#8087336)
>It seems like you're equating "nationalism" with "government", which is most certainly too broad.

No, this is precisely what you are doing. I mentioned that we should not make arguments based on nationalism, and you responded.

>...he says while sipping a glass of nationally funded water, on his computer which arrived via nationally funded sea ports, which sends data over nationally funded computer networks, using a protocol developed with national funding.

which, as you just mentioned, has to do with government, not nationalism.

Re:Obama presses to end corporate trick for evading taxes by diminoten on Friday July 25, 2014 @04:58PM (#8087615)
Your comment came in response to someone calling not paying taxes, "unpatriotic", and saying the US is a "blob of land delineated by imaginary lines", when in reality the whole point of this debate revolves around the fact that entities residing in this "blob of land" are expected to pay taxes, in return for which a whole host of benefits are granted.

It's not nationalism to malign those who benefit from the collective tax paying body without contributing to it.

Re:Obama presses to end corporate trick for evading taxes by jasonwocky on Friday July 25, 2014 @03:00PM (#8086983)
> Can we stick to arguments not based on nationalist fervor?

We can, perhaps. The POTUS generally has a harder time winning arguments by doing so.