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Re:SpaceX Soft Lands Falcon 9 Rocket First Stage by OrwellianChild on Tuesday July 22, 2014 @05:36PM (#8071701)
I'm impressed with the barge concept if only from the wave action the'd have to compensate for. Anyone know wave amplitude in the area they'd be landing in? That's a flat surface that's coming up to meet you or dipping away, making for a pretty heavy drop...
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Re:SpaceX Soft Lands Falcon 9 Rocket First Stage by lotsofmangos on Tuesday July 22, 2014 @07:28PM (#8072159)
You could use a SWATH style ship - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_waterplane_area_twin_hull

They get very little wave loading due to having semi-submersible hulls, much like an oil rig.

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Re:SpaceX Soft Lands Falcon 9 Rocket First Stage by toomuchtodo on Tuesday July 22, 2014 @05:45PM (#8071743)
It's apparently called "Active Heave Compensation":

http://www.boschrexroth-us.com/country_units/america/united_...

It's used at sea for winches, but I'm sure platforms can compensate just as well with the proper force actuators and motion reference units.

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Re:SpaceX Soft Lands Falcon 9 Rocket First Stage by msandford on Tuesday July 22, 2014 @06:26PM (#8071937)
It's actually much cheaper and easier to sink some anchors and winch the barge down a bit than to try and do active compensation. It's one thing to compensate a crane or a winch, it's another to compensate an entire vehicle. The anchor thing is one way that they handle off-shore drilling rigs.

Another is to use a semi-submersible rig. What that means is that you fill the bottom half or 2/3 of the vessel with water making it much heavier. That changes the way it rides in the waves and can dampen the effects that a wave has substantially.

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Re:SpaceX Soft Lands Falcon 9 Rocket First Stage by toomuchtodo on Tuesday July 22, 2014 @06:30PM (#8071951)
Maybe use an old oil rig? Its legs would bolted to the seabed, which I would assume is sturdy enough.
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Re:SpaceX Soft Lands Falcon 9 Rocket First Stage by msandford on Tuesday July 22, 2014 @07:32PM (#8072174)
Depends on the rig. There are plenty of rigs in 5000' feet of water and I assure you that they are not mile-high building. They are semi-submersible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semi-submersible

Oil rigs are really only for drilling, not for getting the oil out of the ground and into whatever container there is. So that means they move around all the time. Like every couple of weeks.

What you're thinking of is called a jack up rig. They go in water up to a few hundred feet deep. Nothing over 1000 feet for sure. That's because the entire truss has to come out of the water when the barge is being moved from one location to the other.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jackup_rig

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Re:SpaceX Soft Lands Falcon 9 Rocket First Stage by andygates on Wednesday July 23, 2014 @04:19AM (#8073372)
An old oil rig has the right level of Bond-villain-ness about it. Gets my vote.
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Re:SpaceX Soft Lands Falcon 9 Rocket First Stage by mrchucklepants on Tuesday July 22, 2014 @06:41PM (#8071998)
The Glomar Explorer, which was custom built by the CIA to raise a sunk russian nuclear submarine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USNS_Glomar_Explorer_(T-AG-193...),used heave compensation for the entire crane/rig that lifted the submarine from the sea floor.
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