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Re:Malaysia B772 has crashed near Donetsk by austenallred on Thursday July 17, 2014 @01:04PM (#8048738)
The rebel army (there isn't really any government to "declare" anything in eastern Ukraine right now) warned that it was a no-fly zone, but Malaysian probably assumed they were referring to the Ukrainian air force, which had been shelling eastern Ukraine fairly heavily. A recent FAA notice warned of the potential of misidentification of civilian aircraft over eastern Ukraine, but surely nobody thought they would shoot a civilian aircraft out of the sky.

That being said, touching eastern Ukraine with a 30,000 ft. pole would probably be less than wise at the moment.

Re:Malaysia B772 has crashed near Donetsk by Alupis on Thursday July 17, 2014 @01:10PM (#8048787)
> A recent FAA notice warned of the potential of misidentification of civilian aircraft over eastern Ukraine, but surely nobody thought they would shoot a civilian aircraft out of the sky.

Yes, but without any direct communication, no organized Air Traffic Control, and without tracking satellites, it seems very easy for ground troops to mistake a civilian transport with a military transport.

Seems ludicrous for anyone to attempt to fly over Ukraine right now.

Re:Malaysia B772 has crashed near Donetsk by TheAnimus on Thursday July 17, 2014 @01:38PM (#8048959)
>Yes, but without any direct communication, no organized Air Traffic Control, and without tracking satellites, it seems very easy for ground troops to mistake a civilian transport with a military transport.

Except for the transponder...

Re:Malaysia B772 has crashed near Donetsk by dm2 on Thursday July 17, 2014 @03:04PM (#8049494)
Which can be spoofed.
Re:Malaysia B772 has crashed near Donetsk by Alupis on Thursday July 17, 2014 @03:49PM (#8049783)
not to mention, ground troops in a civ-war-like situation may not have the technology to detect a civilian aircraft's transponder, nor even expect one to be in the area (after all, it's more-or-less a war zone right now).