Re:Announcing Project Zero
by spacefight on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @11:30AM
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That fibers have been tapped by state actors was well known pre-Snowden (I recall reading a story about how subs were used in Russia etc), yet Google only completed encrypting their private fibers post-Swnoden.
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Re:Announcing Project Zero
by mike_hearn on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @12:37PM
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The assumption pre-Snowden was that only "hostile states" did that kind of thing, e.g fibres in and out of China were probably tapped, but most of the internet wasn't. Because, you know, search warrants do exist.
It's rather arrogant to say "everyone should have known". Snowden's leaks have been making waves for a year solid now exactly because he showed that reality was the worst case scenario only the most extreme of the extreme postulated previously.
Re:Announcing Project Zero
by vezzy-fnord on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @01:27PM
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It's rather arrogant to say "everyone should have known".
No, it isn't.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCSNet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipper_chip
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_641A
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_SHAMROCK
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President%27s_Surveillance_Prog...
etc.
Of course, no one listened. It was much easier to just decry everyone as a "crazy conspiracy theorist", wasn't it?
Re:Announcing Project Zero
by spacefight on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @02:32PM
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This. And thanks to everyone for the down-vote, much love from Google these days, eh?
Jesus, the Google puppets are out strong on this one.
Amazing.
Sure, but as far as we know Google was not aware of it (it = US internal taping) and introduced encryption of private traffic to counteract it. I'm not aware of articles proving they knew about the taps. Are you? (yes, we can speculate they did, but let's say it like that)
Re:Announcing Project Zero
by spacefight on Tuesday July 15, 2014 @02:34PM
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So the US tapped overseas cables for at least a couple of centuries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ivy_Bells) and people still feel amused by the MUSCULAR relevations...