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Re:Ask HN: Am I the only one tired with their bullshit? by wpietri on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @07:00PM (#8007205)
"Manager" is a power relationship. There are other ways to organize teams.

For example, at my last startup we had a shared vacation calendar and we'd just negotiate time off. We'd manage projects and timelines by discussion. We'd figure out who was working on what through short conversations every morning.

A major tomato processor has no power relationships; nobody can tell anybody else what to do:

http://morningstarco.com/index.cgi?Page=Self-Management

They're now putting together an institute to teach people their approach:

http://www.self-managementinstitute.org/

Re:Ask HN: Am I the only one tired with their bullshit? by PM_Tech on Thursday July 10, 2014 @08:05AM (#8014631)
False.

Management refers to the coordination of people, not the exercise of power. It is to coordinate the people towards a goal in conjunction with available resources in an efficient manner.

Example - A Project Manager has no power over the workstream leads other than to assign them tasks, resources and milestones in line with the vision of the Project Board.

Self-Management is nonsense. One or two use cases does not make it applicable to the entire corporate world. How does one discipline a colleague for taking 180 days off per year?

Who exercises executive authority over mergers/acquisitions/hiring/firing/downsizing/scaling/purchasing?

You are arguing for the sake it, no need to reply. I am done with your drama.