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Re:Python is now the most popular introductory language at t... by dragonwriter on Monday July 07, 2014 @05:41PM (#8001651)
> i strongly believe for universities sml/ocaml/haskell or even rust are far better choices.

Rust is a horrible choice now, because it hasn't stabilized. When it has stabilized, it may be a suitable choice (at one point, it looked like it would be too large of a language to a be a great intro language, but since then its been getting smaller, so I'm less convinced that it will remain unsuitable for that role.)

Python's a pretty good intro language; as is Scheme, and Haskell might be, though I haven't seen any good intro-to-programming material built around it, and while I think a good intro should prefer a largely-functional style (as the best Python and Scheme-based courses I've seen have), I'm not convinced that a pure FP language is ideal for an intro to the field (though it certainly a good thing to learn in the course of an education in the field.)

Re:Python is now the most popular introductory language at t... by quasque on Monday July 07, 2014 @07:09PM (#8002142)
The computing courses at my university use Haskell in the introductory programming course - apparently it works rather well as a vehicle for exploring algorithms and data structures.

The students move on to Java, C++, Perl, Prolog and others after that; not sure about Python.

Re:Python is now the most popular introductory language at t... by danieldk on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @03:03AM (#8003328)
The computing courses at my university use Haskell in the introductory programming course - apparently it works rather well as a vehicle for exploring algorithms and data structures.

I think a strict language in the ML family would even be nicer, because students wouldn't have to reason about laziness.

Re:Python is now the most popular introductory language at t... by ufo on Monday July 07, 2014 @07:26PM (#8002201)
Rust killer feature is the interaction between the type system and memory management. I don't think this is the sort of thing you want to worry about in an troductory class...
Re:Python is now the most popular introductory language at t... by fithisux on Tuesday July 08, 2014 @06:10AM (#8003754)
I made a mistake to suggest it. But the purpose here is to learn something in parallel. Pattern matching/ Types or even lambda calculus are good to introduce with the language. Python is good if you have an algorithms/data structures course, students are not required to optimize for a hardware, only algorithmically.