Re:Germany turns up pressure in suspected US spy case
by tobiasu on Monday July 07, 2014 @09:17AM
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On paper. But the 2+4 treaty is mostly Soviets leave, NATO stays and expands.
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Re:Germany turns up pressure in suspected US spy case
by arrrg on Monday July 07, 2014 @09:55AM
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So what you are actually saying is, yes, Germany has full sovereignty.
Please don’t spread this bullshit. There is (mostly) mutually beneficial strong cooperation with a power-differential. That’s all. Stop spinning your dumb conspiracy theories.
Re:Germany turns up pressure in suspected US spy case
by tobiasu on Monday July 07, 2014 @10:15AM
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How about you stop raging about things I didn't say?
Re:Germany turns up pressure in suspected US spy case
by eru on Monday July 07, 2014 @09:30PM
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Similar to the UK (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force_in_the...) and a long list of other countries (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military...).
Re:Germany turns up pressure in suspected US spy case
by fit2rule on Monday July 07, 2014 @12:22PM
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Germany does not have full sovereignty and won't, ever, until a Peace Treaty is signed and ratified. America won't allow that to happen because then it'd have to pull out all of its troops - and in case you didn't know, Germany is full of American troops and other military-industrial resources.
Germany is, at most, a puppet state - a model for what America had hoped to pull off in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and so on ..
Re:Germany turns up pressure in suspected US spy case
by tobiasu on Monday July 07, 2014 @01:27PM
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My question is: If Germany is still occupied, what is it that it can not do?
Re:Germany turns up pressure in suspected US spy case
by mschuster91 on Monday July 07, 2014 @05:03PM
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Stand up to the shit the NSA is doing. Eject those fucking bastards who operate the NSA listening posts in Germany.
Seriously, everyone who works for the NSA has lost all my respect. You're undermining civil rights for everyone including yourself.