News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Consciousness on-off switch discovered deep in brain by macspoofing on Monday July 07, 2014 @01:37AM (#7997238)
>I've come to the conclusion, that science will never be able to even define consciousness, let alone explain it.

I think the real problem is that people don't really want consciousness defined. They want to keep it as this magical, special thing.

Re:Consciousness on-off switch discovered deep in brain by RivieraKid on Monday July 07, 2014 @12:43PM (#7999730)
> I think the real problem is that people don't really want consciousness defined. They want to keep it as this magical, special thing.

I disagree, what makes you think so? Hard problem of consciousness is the real problem. Consciousness isn't a physical thing, that's why physics can't define it.

Re:Consciousness on-off switch discovered deep in brain by CodeDiver on Monday July 07, 2014 @11:03PM (#8002815)
If you want to keep the assumption that consciousness and the physical world share causal interactions, consciousness must be a physical thing. How could consciousness and the physical world interact causally if consciousness is not part of the physical world?

The reason physics can't define consciousness isn't that consciousness isn't physical. Consciousness is just part of the world our current physics, and really our current philosophies, haven't developed satisfactory means to address.

Many physical phenomena, now explained by physics, were once unexplained by previous iterations of physics. Previous physics were just incomplete, until people came along with new ideas to expand what phenomena physics could explain. Doesn't mean those phenomena weren't physical things before physics evolved ways to understand them.

Re:Consciousness on-off switch discovered deep in brain by macspoofing on Monday July 07, 2014 @10:51PM (#8002787)
>Consciousness isn't a physical thing, that's why physics can't define it.

Says who? It is most certainly caused by physical neurons which are built by particles following the laws of physics. In principle it is both understandable and explainable in terms of physics, though likely any explanation will follow some other nomenclature (e.g. we don't describe weather in terms of motions of quarks)