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Re:Ask HN: What causes a top 10 front page post to jump to s... by dragonwriter on Thursday July 03, 2014 @06:55PM (#7986374)
> What the OPs are really saying is they'll let it slide for their friends and network, but not others.

OP? Usually, when I've seen that in a forum, it means "Original Poster", the submitter of the post to which the comment thread is attached -- but clearly that's not what you mean here. Do you mean the mods?

And, no, the voting ring detector is, from everything that has been said about it, algorithmic, so its just as wrong for anyones "friends and network" as for anyone else's.

> This is outright unacceptable behavior and I think methods of accountability should be added.

I'm sure if you ask nicely, YC will refund 100% of the HN membership fee you paid if you are unsatisfied.

> If a startup didn't have friends, fans, and followers, than what do they have guys?

The idea of HN is that things should be promoted in visibility based on the interest to the community at large based on the content, not based on collusion of groups to promote them. Hence the voting ring detector. There's plenty of venues for promotion that don't work that way, but I don't see why anyone (other than YC) is entitled to demand that HN change.

Re:Ask HN: What causes a top 10 front page post to jump to s... by jqueryin on Thursday July 03, 2014 @07:02PM (#7986411)
Correct on mods, I was ranting too fast. I'll maintain my rights to rant on occasion if something smells fishy. The post had legitimate interest, a comment chain, and votes in both directions. The algorithm seems to be at fault but I won't know for sure without some feedback. I sent an email out, so I guess we'll wait and see.