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Re:Police Can Get Access to Your Cellphone Data Even After t... by graycat on Friday June 27, 2014 @07:49AM (#7953568)
A question?

How does the 'tracking' of the movements and location of a cellphone by the cellphone towers and/or WiFi networks work?

Or, The tracking by the towers works all the time so that the cellphone network will know how to send an incoming call to the phone? If so, is there a way to turn off the phone so that it can't receive calls and can't be tracked, noticed, or followed by the towers?

Re:Police Can Get Access to Your Cellphone Data Even After t... by superuser2 on Friday June 27, 2014 @08:32AM (#7953662)
1) Yes, your phone regularly communicates with the nearest cell towers and the phone company can't help but know which one. However, this is imprecise - resolution of a few blocks.

2) Most smartphones have GPS-based location services that use, well GPS, plus the combination of WiFi networks and their signal strengths. To get reasonable speed, this data needs to be cached locally, but only the data for where you've actually been can fit. This is the reason for the huge fallout a couple years ago about "Your iPhone is tracking your movements!" This cache can be read with physical access (and the device's PIN).

3) Yes, turning off the phone will do that. Unless you are a specific target, in which case law enforcement may have issued a software update just for you that makes the phone only appear to shut down. The only way to be sure is to take out the battery or not takke te phone with you.

Re:Police Can Get Access to Your Cellphone Data Even After t... by Zigurd on Friday June 27, 2014 @10:17AM (#7953985)
I do not think an "update" is needed. All of the functionality for a room bug is in all baseband processors: control of alerting on an offering call, control over LEDs and display lighting (or telling an application processor about an offering call), connecting, speakerphone, etc. All that is needed is knowledge of what is probably an extension of the GSM call control messages, and the ability to inject that message into the telephone network.
Re:Police Can Get Access to Your Cellphone Data Even After t... by keithpeter on Friday June 27, 2014 @09:58AM (#7953915)
Under your heading 3) I'm just wondering how long it is before someone makes a copper coated metal tin just the right size for each make of smart phone. Just open the lid when you want to make a call or 'sync' with your network of friends.

Could be fun if it went viral. Could even have pictures of your favourite politician on the lid, Theresa May for the UK model I imagine.

Re:Police Can Get Access to Your Cellphone Data Even After t... by superuser2 on Friday June 27, 2014 @11:46AM (#7954509)
>Just open the lid when you want to make a call

If it became normal to put your phone in a Faraday cage while not making a call, no one would answer calls, and there would be no point in making them :).

Re:Police Can Get Access to Your Cellphone Data Even After t... by keithpeter on Friday June 27, 2014 @02:52PM (#7955665)
An added benefit :-)

Seriously: observation on my daily commute suggests that actually making phone calls is a minority use of the mobiles that people spend all the journey stroking and looking at.

Re:Police Can Get Access to Your Cellphone Data Even After t... by superuser2 on Friday June 27, 2014 @03:52PM (#7955989)
Public transit is an inappropriate place to make a voice call. People still do it at home all the time.
Re:Police Can Get Access to Your Cellphone Data Even After t... by graycat on Friday June 27, 2014 @05:55PM (#7956462)
Thanks.