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Re:Free the H-1Bs, Free the Economy by ankeshk on Sunday August 30, 2009 @03:19PM (#794845)
1. Yes but Spartan rules of being killer fighters made immigration impossible.

2. The Perioikoi could trade with whomever they pleased - but - but no one wanted to trade with them because of the iron slabs being used as currency of exchange.

Dig a little deeper into the motives as to why such rules were made by the Spartans and you will see that it was pure protectionism.

Re:Free the H-1Bs, Free the Economy by netsp on Sunday August 30, 2009 @10:10PM (#795262)
where would you suggest digging to uncover the motive of illiterate bureaucrats from 2500 years ago?

I imagine it should be easy compared to uncovering the motives of living politicians in information societies.

Re:Free the H-1Bs, Free the Economy by gaius on Monday August 31, 2009 @04:34AM (#795612)
The Spartans were not illiterate - they preferred oral history and verbal contracts to written records. Similarly they were perfectly capable of building things, yet they preferred that Sparta itself was a city of small buildings without walls. There's nothing left of it today.

Spartans, basically, eschewed possessions, apart from their personal weapons. They didn't want to grow soft and weak, so they made luxury impossible. An adult male Spartan owned some land, which was farmed by Perioikoi or Helots, and he was responsible for providing his share of food to the barracks in which he lived, but he could not "profit", ever. Perioikoi (permanent residents of Sparta but not Spartiate themselves) could and did get rich. Even Helots (slaves from conquered enemies) usually lived materially richer lives than Spartans.

What they should have done was announced that glorious deaths didn't count until a Spartan had had so many kids, that would have made everyone happy.

Re:Free the H-1Bs, Free the Economy by gaius on Monday August 31, 2009 @04:37AM (#795614)
On a slightly unrelated note, the way to win in Afghanistan is to plumb every Afghan home with hot running water.
Re:Free the H-1Bs, Free the Economy by netsp on Monday August 31, 2009 @08:07PM (#796990)
Are you being ironic? It's fairly amusing hearing (usually Americans) revive some colonialist axiom or piece of logic as if it is new & brilliant.

The relationship between wealth & compliance is complex.