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Re:Works With Nest by eddieroger on Tuesday June 24, 2014 @09:24AM (#7937545)
I'm glad you mentioned HomeKit, because at this point, I'm really starting to fight my desire to go out and hook all of these things up to make sure they work with HomeKit. Apple doesn't exactly have a history of really releasing the standards they say they will (looking at you, iMessage), but I'm all for the idea of standardized home automation.
Re:Works With Nest by bsimpson on Tuesday June 24, 2014 @11:48AM (#7938396)
Remember when Steve said he was going to the standards boards the next day with the spec for FaceTime?

I checked intermittently for about a year afterwards: never saw any activity to substantiate that claim.

Re:Works With Nest by jws on Tuesday June 24, 2014 @02:35PM (#7939540)
Would it have helped? It apparently infringes multiple patents Apple does not control. They lost to VirnetX and now Samsung is going after them.
Re:Works With Nest by mannkind on Tuesday June 24, 2014 @11:46AM (#7938382)
When did they ever say iMessage would be an standard? I recall them stating FaceTime would be, but didn't some patent nonsense get in the way?
Re:Works With Nest by eddieroger on Tuesday June 24, 2014 @01:05PM (#7938839)
I'm misremembering - it was FaceTime, not iMessage. Whoops.

Unless I'm continuing to misremember, there was some patent issue that blocked FaceTime from working over cellular on the first version, but it was cleared up when AT&T finally accepted that they were the only carrier not supporting it.

Re:Works With Nest by aisenik on Tuesday June 24, 2014 @01:37PM (#7939081)
No patent issue, just AT&T and money.

The patent issue is a DoD-connected company forcing Apple to abandon P2P and break the end-to-end encryption. Not unlike what happened with Skype, though quite a bit more hostile.