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Re:The Abstinence Method – Dutch farmers say no to antibioti... by Loughla on Wednesday June 18, 2014 @12:00PM (#7910835)
That's what I get for applying the US lens to Europe. . . .

But, the regulations are very similar. So, where your site states, "Lots of outdoor space and fresh air" "Encouragement of normal animal behaviour" I wonder if that is translated the same as the United States: "Provide access to the outdoors so that animals can exercise their natural behaviors" "Support animal health and welfare"

If it is, I really wonder if they're being applied the same, or if yours are as open for interpretation as ours. My experience with US organic farming is dairy and chicken. I work with farmers quite a bit through the extension office of my college employer. The organic farmers in my area practice (in my opinion) very loose organic practices.

For example, access to outdoors was available, but in an enclosed area (run for chickens, small pasture for cattle). This, by no means allowed the animals to "exercise their natural behaviors," and yet was within the legal definition of organic, and allowed them to sell their products to grocery stores and markets as 'certified organic'.

The health and welfare laws mentioned in the second portion apply to all farmers, regardless of organic certification or not.

Is the interpretation similar in Europe?

Re:The Abstinence Method – Dutch farmers say no to antibioti... by justincormack on Wednesday June 18, 2014 @01:55PM (#7911539)
That's a very good question. I don't know what the worst case is here, only a few cases which are very good... Will try to find out.