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Re:Delivering Breaking Bad on Netflix in Ultra HD 4K by rorski on Tuesday June 17, 2014 @02:15AM (#7903082)
This might be useful in illustrating your point: http://s3.carltonbale.com/resolution_chart.html
Re:Delivering Breaking Bad on Netflix in Ultra HD 4K by michaelgrafl on Tuesday June 17, 2014 @02:37AM (#7903132)
This illustrates the point of dimishing returns with regards to ever higher amount of total pixels on a screen.

Doesn't mentions compression artifacts, though. Thus - at the same bitrate - higher resolution images might look worse than lower resolution ones. Which is what I think the OP meant to highlight.

Re:Delivering Breaking Bad on Netflix in Ultra HD 4K by pvidler on Tuesday June 17, 2014 @03:36AM (#7903250)
> Thus - at the same bitrate - higher resolution images might look worse than lower resolution ones.

But the 4K stream is HEVC (H.265) vs H.264 for the other HD streams, so it may not be that simple.

Re:Delivering Breaking Bad on Netflix in Ultra HD 4K by garblegarble on Tuesday June 17, 2014 @04:00AM (#7903295)
Well, HEVC compresses the same quality to about half the size of H.264, so since 4K is about 4x 1080p and the bitrate is a little over 2x their 1080p Super HD streams I'd expect the quality to be a little better.

What I'd really be interested to see is the House of Cards intro at this bitrate - the 1080p Super HD stream had a lot of really off-putting banding in the clouds.

Re:Delivering Breaking Bad on Netflix in Ultra HD 4K by kristofferR on Tuesday June 17, 2014 @05:35AM (#7903494)
> HEVC compresses the same quality to about half the size of H.264

Eh, it's supposed to, but it's not there yet. The best H.264 encoder (x264) is actually still more efficient than the best H.265 encoders (and MUCH faster).

Development of the H265 encoders is progressing fast though, x265 will likely surpass x264 within the year.

Here's some recent samples (12th June) that compares a very recent build of x265 with x264: http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1683608&postcount=907

Re:Delivering Breaking Bad on Netflix in Ultra HD 4K by ars on Tuesday June 17, 2014 @02:29AM (#7903110)
Am I the only one who watches stuff on his computer, and sits about 2-3 feet from it?
Re:Delivering Breaking Bad on Netflix in Ultra HD 4K by kapitalx on Tuesday June 17, 2014 @03:37AM (#7903256)
I watch most things on my 13" mbp w/retina. and my eyes are typically 1-2 feet away from the screen. Very immersive experience IMHO.
Re:Delivering Breaking Bad on Netflix in Ultra HD 4K by michaelgrafl on Tuesday June 17, 2014 @02:38AM (#7903136)
What screen size are you on? 27 inches? Can you make out individual pixels with film material (which usually has no sharp edges in it)?
Re:Delivering Breaking Bad on Netflix in Ultra HD 4K by richforrester on Tuesday June 17, 2014 @02:47AM (#7903159)
Not arguing against what you are saying, but there's a significant difference between "making out individual pixels" and "noticing a difference".
Re:Delivering Breaking Bad on Netflix in Ultra HD 4K by michaelgrafl on Wednesday June 18, 2014 @05:48AM (#7909235)
That's true.
Re:Delivering Breaking Bad on Netflix in Ultra HD 4K by Retric on Tuesday June 17, 2014 @08:44AM (#7904046)
That's total BS, you can notice alising patterns easily at much higher resolutions than your suggesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliasing

PS: I noticed issues standing ~10 feet from a 50' 4k screen.

Re:Delivering Breaking Bad on Netflix in Ultra HD 4K by lloeki on Tuesday June 17, 2014 @05:04AM (#7903429)
Alternatively, http://isthisretina.com offers a simple way to input whatever value you need. Not that the computation is complex, but it's quite handy.
Re:Delivering Breaking Bad on Netflix in Ultra HD 4K by VeejayRampay on Tuesday June 17, 2014 @05:28AM (#7903478)
That imperial system.