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Re:Twitter Steps Down From the Free Speech Party by dragonwriter on Friday June 13, 2014 @11:13AM (#7889210)
> Maybe companies / corporations with enough power to actually challenge the governments of the world isn't such a bad thing after all.

Corporations are entities who owe their existence to government and can be terminated at a whim by government. If the government chartering a corporation decides it shouldn't continue to exist, it doesn't exist anymore.

This gets obscured a lot by the fact that the same class of people that derive the most benefit from the existence of corporations also have disproportionate power over government, so that this power is very rarely exercised, but that's not because corporations are powerful enough to resist government or even theoretically could be, its because corporations and governments ultimately are run by the same people.

Re:Twitter Steps Down From the Free Speech Party by mindcrime on Friday June 13, 2014 @11:40AM (#7889358)
Corporations are entities who owe their existence to government and can be terminated at a whim by government.

Yeah that's the way it works today and in Real Life. Clearly the cyberpunk scenario is a hypothetical, but it might not be as far-fetched as it seems.

Whether it's a Good Idea or not is, obviously a big question.

Re:Twitter Steps Down From the Free Speech Party by dragonwriter on Friday June 13, 2014 @01:52PM (#7890033)
If corporations were independent of sovereign governments, they would be sovereign governments, not challengers to them.
Re:Twitter Steps Down From the Free Speech Party by mindcrime on Friday June 13, 2014 @03:54PM (#7890549)
Maybe, but not necessarily the same kind of sovereign government.
Re:Twitter Steps Down From the Free Speech Party by bmm6o on Friday June 13, 2014 @12:52PM (#7889744)
Has this ever happened? I know governments have taken over/privatized businesses, but when was the last time one was just shut down because it presented a threat? I'd think you'd be well into "too big to fail/jail" territory.
Re:Twitter Steps Down From the Free Speech Party by dragonwriter on Friday June 13, 2014 @01:51PM (#7890027)
> Has this ever happened?

Yes, corporate charters have been revoked for failure to comply with legal requirements. AFAIK, the most recent period of time during which this (sometimes referred to as the "corporate death sentence") was an actively-pursued remedy for violations of the law in the US (though it is one on the books still in, I believe, all states) is the late 19th and early 20th century [1].

[1] Some New York cases discussed starting on p. 250 (of the source document, not the PDF) under "Revocations Based on Misuse of the Corporate Charter for Violations of State Law": http://digitalcommons.pace.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1...

Re:Twitter Steps Down From the Free Speech Party by bmm6o on Friday June 13, 2014 @05:04PM (#7890832)
I don't question that the state can revoke a charter, I meant if it had done so as a result of a perceived threat (rather than as a result of criminal behavior). I'm aware that since the state also defines criminal behavior the line can be blurry, but I think we can agree that the North River Sugar Refining Company did not pose an existential threat to the state of New York.