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Re:I'm Telling: Employer-Tattling and the Decline of Agency by aidenn0 on Monday June 09, 2014 @03:14PM (#7869941)
Agency seems to be zero-sum to me. If I can command 100s of people who have to do whatever I please, then granting them freedom reduces my freedom.

Giving someone freedom necessarily reduces the freedom of those who previously took advantage of their lack of freedom.

Re:I'm Telling: Employer-Tattling and the Decline of Agency by gress on Monday June 09, 2014 @03:29PM (#7870029)
Agency is not zero sum. That's why you couldn't use it to make your argument and had to switch to using the word 'freedom' to construct a straw man.
Re:I'm Telling: Employer-Tattling and the Decline of Agency by aidenn0 on Monday June 09, 2014 @04:20PM (#7870259)
Plese educate me on the difference, as (at least in this context) they seem to be interchangable.

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To clarify, consider a hypothetical total autocracy, where the autocrat makes a decision, and everyone's behavior is altered by various means. By my reasoning, the autocrat has collected everyone's agency to themself.

Maybe it's not a perfect zero-sum, as you have inefficiencies in the system, but it does seem that you reach a point at which increasing one person's agency happens only at the expense of reducing others'

Re:I'm Telling: Employer-Tattling and the Decline of Agency by gress on Monday June 09, 2014 @04:40PM (#7870367)
Your example of the autocrat who has a magical means to alter everyone's behavior is totally artificial and has no corollary in the real world, and therefore isn't relevant to the real world concept of agency.
Re:I'm Telling: Employer-Tattling and the Decline of Agency by aidenn0 on Monday June 09, 2014 @07:42PM (#7871150)
Given that it is possible to alter people's behavior via non-magical means, I disagree that it's "totally artificial"
Re:I'm Telling: Employer-Tattling and the Decline of Agency by gress on Monday June 09, 2014 @07:53PM (#7871174)
Well then specify the means, and make it a real example.