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Re:Ask HN: Can you spot the difference? by jibiki on Tuesday August 25, 2009 @08:09PM (#786199)
> Today, they're the butt of every joke.

I think this trend probably peaked a few years ago (Family Guy is a good example.) You can actually see it reversing if you watch King of the Hill: the earliest episodes generally show Hank as a small minded redneck, whereas later episodes portray him as a lone voice of sanity.

Anyways, if you look outside of comedies, there are plenty of masculine male leads in popular shows (Jack Bauer comes to mind.) As for race, I can't even think of a popular drama where the male lead is black (and the other characters aren't.) But maybe I just don't watch enough TV.

Re:Ask HN: Can you spot the difference? by crux_ on Tuesday August 25, 2009 @09:35PM (#786324)
I think it's tough to say when that particular trend "peaked." Consider:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3s8sEYzHWQ or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_TGQ7rGL-Q

Or even:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1MgjQOR_JA

;)

Re:Ask HN: Can you spot the difference? by jibiki on Tuesday August 25, 2009 @10:39PM (#786426)
There's a specific genre, "fat-dumb-slob-married-to-woman-who-always-knows-best", which Family Guy is the pinnacle of (it's an old genre of course, related to the theme of women marrying beneath their status, which has been a major literary device since time immemorial.)