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Re:Snowden a 'traitor': Andreessen by dragontamer on Thursday June 05, 2014 @03:02PM (#7853590)
Learn US Govermnent 101 please.

The NSA is a military agency. The Military is not afforded police powers. The NSA is restricted in its ability to cooperate with the FBI. Furthermore, any illegally gathered evidence is tossed out before it is told to the jury.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree

The US is allowed to spy on its citizens, as appropriate under the 4th amendment. IE: With warrants, due process, and all that good stuff. When the DoJ / FBI fails to comply with the rules, illegal evidence is tossed out before trials even begin.

Re:Snowden a 'traitor': Andreessen by opendais on Thursday June 05, 2014 @03:31PM (#7853794)
Eh?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction

NSA hands it over to the DEA who arrests you based on an investigation based on that information.

They've been doing it and getting away with it so I think your believe that the Fruit of the Poisonous Tree will protect you is false.

Re:Snowden a 'traitor': Andreessen by dragontamer on Thursday June 05, 2014 @04:36PM (#7854233)
Parallel construction proves my statements.

On the books, legally and in front of a judge, the NSA and DEA are not allowed to work with each other. Parallel Construction is a (probably illegal) technique that DEA agents are using right now to get around the legal authorities.

But it involves DEA agents lying under oath towards judges. IE: I don't think the practice of parallel construction is going to hold up in courts in the long term.

Re:Snowden a 'traitor': Andreessen by Kim_Bruning on Thursday June 05, 2014 @03:30PM (#7853781)
Re:Snowden a 'traitor': Andreessen by fnordfnordfnord on Thursday June 05, 2014 @03:24PM (#7853729)
Good grief. Stop pretending that NSA and DOJ are playing by the rules. We know they're not. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/dea-and-nsa-team-intel...