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Re:Gun homicides down dramatically, Americans unaware by JoeAltmaier on Thursday June 05, 2014 @12:22PM (#7852666)
That's unsubstantiated. The fact is, guns keep us safe AND they are a risk. Risk because they are a favored route for suicide (not really the gun's fault) and so on. Safe because, you know, folks who own and use guns properly are victimized less. That's an important statistic, and its disingenuous to ignore it.
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Re:Gun homicides down dramatically, Americans unaware by dragonwriter on Thursday June 05, 2014 @12:30PM (#7852710)
> Safe because, you know, folks who own and use guns properly are victimized less.

That's pretty much an empty tautology, since any use of guns that doesn't provide this effect can be dismissed as "improper".

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Re:Gun homicides down dramatically, Americans unaware by JoeAltmaier on Thursday June 05, 2014 @03:38PM (#7853833)
If you like. Or you can talk about training and facility with a firearm. Regular things with known meanings.
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