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Re:Alexander Shulgin has died by jimejim on Wednesday June 04, 2014 @12:04AM (#7843972)
It's a pity about your friends, so I get your decision and am sorry for your losses. I don't see why taking occasional trips means you can't take life seriously though. I still live a normal life and like to occasionally try out stuff.

On that note, I finally got to do some 2cb, 2ci, and 2ce about 2 years ago. Amazing stuff.

Re:Alexander Shulgin has died by jjj222 on Wednesday June 04, 2014 @01:39AM (#7844181)
Memories are starting to come back...

Alot of shit happened that do not mix with my new life...

Two of my close friends where busted for having secret illegal chemlabs- and a huge investigation followed. Alot of my friends where talked to by the police.

Today the police is a client of mine....

And alot of my friends never progressed in their development- i needed to move on. It isnt the drugs, it is the subculture that is the problem...it is wonderfull, lots of great people- but...you know :)

Anyway, my point is, it isnt the fact that I dont do drugs that means I am taking life seriously. It is that i cutted off that part of my life, the people, the mindsets, the illegal aspects of many things involved in that life.

Re:Alexander Shulgin has died by jimejim on Wednesday June 04, 2014 @01:56AM (#7844218)
That makes sense. Thanks for the clarification.
Re:Alexander Shulgin has died by jjj222 on Wednesday June 04, 2014 @01:27AM (#7844162)
It isnt really the drugs...it is everything else that comes with it, the people, the illegal trades, the raves....

And I am getting old, I need my 9 hours of sleep to performance max! :)

But I havent said "I will never take X drug again"

I just havent felt like it :)

Re:Alexander Shulgin has died by jjj222 on Wednesday June 04, 2014 @01:30AM (#7844167)
ohhh, and the Bromo Dragonfly episodes.....

That also played a part....none of my close friends died of it, but people at raves i went to did....

Re:Alexander Shulgin has died by jjj222 on Wednesday June 04, 2014 @01:50AM (#7844205)
That is kinda none releated- I havent thought about that part of my life in years...and I can look at it more...umm..neutral now.

I remember I was at a rave, deep in a forest, an none announced secret rave- and this was playing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BgMxgwkfu8

I was tripping balls on 2cb, everything was moving, there was string art, people was dancing and where happy.

Then at the beach i see an ~ 8 year old girl crying, I go to her and ask: Why are you crying little girl? "I cannot find my mom" WTF! I was not in any condition to act responsily, but that was wrong, and not good! So I lift the little girl up, and go to the "dance stage" and yell out "WHO KNOWS THIS LITTLE GIRL?!?!?!" And I do not know how long I did that, it was a weird night and i was tripping balls. But finally an ~30 year old women with pink hair and glowing clothes says "Hey, that is my girl what the hell are you doing with her" I should have said: "What the hell are YOU doing with her? This is not a place for such small girls, and you fucking left her at the beach to go dancing- what the hell is there matter with you????" But all I said was "Take her......", and I went to the beach pretty shocked and confused...that wasnt really a good night.

Anyway, my pointe is "I am too old for that shit!"

Re:Alexander Shulgin has died by jimejim on Wednesday June 04, 2014 @02:00AM (#7844228)
Jeez, yeah, I could see how having a few of those experiences might make you want to take a break. Some people can't be trusted to be responsible. I've been pretty fortunate with the groups I've been with.