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Re:LAPD adds drones to arsenal, says they'll be used sparingly by Shivetya on Saturday May 31, 2014 @02:56PM (#7826890)
The police are excused from a great many things, specifically harm to others when they raid a home or even the wrong home. Down in my state we have this nice story about them lobbing a flash bang into a house because they had a no knock warrant.

NO KNOCK. Tell me what laws are they bound too when those are nearly freely given out and for drug offenses? If they break down your door because they got the address wrong in most jurisdictions all they have to do is apologize if that.

I have friends that are cops and on but damn if I do not like the liberties they get over us.

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Re:LAPD adds drones to arsenal, says they'll be used sparingly by tjaerv on Saturday May 31, 2014 @03:01PM (#7826909)
The flashbangs and middle-of-the-night no-knock raids are standard practice now. And they have consequences:

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/toddler-critically-burn...

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Re:LAPD adds drones to arsenal, says they'll be used sparingly by MichaelGG on Saturday May 31, 2014 @04:45PM (#7827209)
In this case of the toddler, the police are at least claiming that they used a battering ram on the door and it did not work. They claim that the door was blocked by the playpen.[1] As if that makes it ok.

It surprises me how no-knock can be legal. In some places, you cannot even respond with force. Or if you do, you cannot claim self-defense, as police get special privileges.

I don't even see how knock and notice is legal, as you have no timely way to authenticate someone claiming to be police. Why would an attacker simply not yell "police!" and scream orders at his victim? How would a victim possibly differentiate in this scenario?

A friend was just robbed in the middle of the night. His reaction was to yell at the intruders, claiming to have a gun. Had the intruders simply yelled back they were LE, my friend would have ceased resisting and voluntarily given into being tied up.

1: http://pix11.com/2014/05/30/toddler-injured-after-swat-team-...

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Re:LAPD adds drones to arsenal, says they'll be used sparingly by jevinskie on Saturday May 31, 2014 @03:26PM (#7826984)
Incredibly sad. How much is America willing to give up for the War on Drugs? I suppose it is a similar situation to the boiling frog, they ratchet up the intensity bit by bit.
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