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Re:Google Maps Mania Blog is Dropping Google Maps by userbinator on Thursday May 29, 2014 @08:20PM (#7819454)
As a (very) long-time user of the Internet, I've become increasingly disgusted at what it's become, in particular the rise of the whole "SEO phenomenon" that's basically become a cat-and-mouse game between site owners and search engines. Large corporations and SEO spammers have the resources to play this game, while the smaller independent sites (often managed by a single person) don't, and when they get penalised somehow, it's much harder for them to solve the "problem". The often interesting, unique, and more personal bits of the Internet are being made less accessible.

I think the reason it became this way is entirely due to search engines encouraging this ranking game. Those who want their site to be at the top of the SERPs optimise for that, instead of focusing on what makes their sites' content valuable to actual users. The incentives are all wrong, from the perspective of what the Internet should be, and to fix this I think search engines should, instead of trying to develop more and more complex algorithms that the SEOs will just figure out how to beat, use a (periodically changing) random ranking. This would probably kill off SEO completely, as there would no longer be anything about the search engine to optimise for - everyone who wants visitors would instead focus on that content, so on those times when their site appears near the top of the rankings, they can attract and retain users who will preferably bookmark them and visit again.

Re:Google Maps Mania Blog is Dropping Google Maps by rodgerd on Thursday May 29, 2014 @09:49PM (#7819720)
> I've become increasingly disgusted at what it's become, in particular the rise of the whole "SEO phenomenon" that's basically become a cat-and-mouse game between site owners and search engines. Large corporations and SEO spammers have the resources to play this game, while the smaller independent site

It's essentially a replay of what killed Usenet. And the "SEO experts" are every bit the vile blight on the web as spammers were on Usenet.

Re:Google Maps Mania Blog is Dropping Google Maps by tripzilch on Monday June 02, 2014 @04:08PM (#7835954)
The "SEO phenomenon" has been going on for well over two decades now.

And if you knew how to search, it was a nuisance, but could be dealt with.

The (relatively) "new" part of it is Google throwing out the babies with the bathwater.

Re:Google Maps Mania Blog is Dropping Google Maps by zevyoura on Thursday May 29, 2014 @11:02PM (#7820005)
A random ranking? Of all results? Are you kidding? The vast, vast majority of results for a typical query are tangentially relevant at best.
Re:Google Maps Mania Blog is Dropping Google Maps by userbinator on Friday May 30, 2014 @01:07AM (#7820376)
I don't mean all results that may or may not even have the search terms (which is what Google "helpfully" tries to do), but all results that actually have the given search terms. Hopefully this will mean users learn to use more specific search queries to get what they want, and thus ask more specific questions --- not a bad thing at all for the Internet and society in general either.

The biggest advantage of a random ranking IMHO is that it completely eliminates any incentive to game the ranking system, and gives the "indie" portion of the Web a fairer chance at getting visitors. Let the users decide themselves individually what's relevant to them, and not Uncle Google.