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Re:Getting to work on diversity at Google by dragonwriter on Thursday May 29, 2014 @12:22PM (#7816996)
> I get that Google is "special" and printing money at the moment but typically companies don't have the luxury of saying "we have no limits! Hire as many people as you want!!!"

Yeah, but this is about Google, at the moment. Not about "typical companies" or "Google in some speculative future where they are money or task constrained, rather than employee-pool constrained".

Re:Getting to work on diversity at Google by xienze on Thursday May 29, 2014 @01:25PM (#7817385)
You say that as if you believe Google will never have a hiring freeze. Are you really that naive to think Google will continue to expand indefinitely? They absolutely will hit a point when they can't just leave the number of new hires uncapped. That's where the rubber meets the road when it comes to corporate social engineering, though everyone seems to just hand-wave that away.
Re:Getting to work on diversity at Google by dragonwriter on Thursday May 29, 2014 @02:04PM (#7817644)
> You say that as if you believe Google will never have a hiring freeze.

No, I don't. The discussion is about Google's current state, and Google current plans to deal with diversity given that current state. A change in circumstances (and Google going from "hire every qualified person we can get our hands on" to "stop hiring anyone" would be a radical change in circumstances) would be an occasion for a different discussion.

> Are you really that naive to think Google will continue to expand indefinitely?

I think that Google's concerns about and options for approaching diversity would be different if Google was funding or task constrained rather than employee-pool- constrained, and that the proper focus of discussion is the real world that exists, not some speculative future that may or may not exist in the lifetime of anyone discussing it.

> They absolutely will hit a point when they can't just leave the number of new hires uncapped.

Its almost certain that sometime before the end of human civilization that that will happen for Google, but the time to discuss whether diversity should remain a concern and what steps are appropriate to address that concern in a funding-constrained firm will be appropriate with respect to Google when that occurs. However, it isn't the case now, so its just a distraction from the issue today.

Especially since I'm sure that -- as much as Google would hope to avoid that circumstance as long as possible -- Google would also prefer to acheive an acceptable demographic profile in its workforce before it becomes constrained in that way (and, insofar as there are business as well as humanitarian reasons for its diversity concerns, sees acheiving a good diversity profile as part of a strategy to continue growing in a way that does not result in them becoming resource- rather than employee-constrained.)