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Re:Logos of the candidate cities for the 2016 Olympics by potatolicious on Monday August 24, 2009 @02:14AM (#781606)
It's surprising how "cold" and professional the Chicago logo feels. I'm definitely a fan of Madrid's logo - IMHO the Olympics needs to focus on unity now moreso than ever. A more "human" logo certainly helps.

Plus the symbolism of the handprint is much more universal than any star or ribbon can be.

Re:Logos of the candidate cities for the 2016 Olympics by patio11 on Monday August 24, 2009 @02:35AM (#781631)
I think they were going for a fusion of Olympic iconography (the torch) with the Chicago flag ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Chicago )and a bit of a skyscraper motif.

While the Chicago flag is a bit inside baseball (and probably included solely as a sop to the Chicago political establishment, who intend to own the Olympics as thoroughly as they own everything else that ever came out of Chicago politics), I do think that incorporating a bit of the local flair into the logo is a good design goal. I like Madrid's logo, don't get me wrong, but couldn't it be San Fransisco's logo, or London's logo, or Moscow's logo, etc, without modification?

I kind of like Tokyo's -- the ribbon is togetherness but the design is distinctly Japanese. I expect the prominent inclusion of the hinomaru (the red disk in the center of the Japanese flag) probably will get a raised eyebrow or two from some quarters, but the Olympics is not exactly a celebration of anti-nationalism now is it.

Re:Logos of the candidate cities for the 2016 Olympics by yjsoon on Monday August 24, 2009 @03:28AM (#781689)
I thought that, of the lot, the Madrid logo really just stood out very distinctively.

I agree that the "M" is a little understated. However, I personally don't feel it's so important that Madrid "owns" the logo at this stage - it'll come to identify with the city eventually if they win the bid and the logo enters the public consciousness.

Alternate logo and real-life usage of the Madrid logo at the designer's site: http://www.behance.net/Gallery/Madrid-2016/182876

Re:Logos of the candidate cities for the 2016 Olympics by jcl on Monday August 24, 2009 @09:50AM (#782093)
I expect the prominent inclusion of the hinomaru (the red disk in the center of the Japanese flag) probably will get a raised eyebrow or two...

Heh... Check out the 1964 Tokyo Olympics logo: http://www.sportslogos.net/league.php?id=27

Re:Logos of the candidate cities for the 2016 Olympics by yhuiuyggb on Monday August 24, 2009 @10:42AM (#782218)
You aren't supposed to use the national flag with the olympic logo.
Re:Logos of the candidate cities for the 2016 Olympics by Luc on Monday August 24, 2009 @04:14AM (#781737)
My first reaction to the Chicago logo was 'there they go waving the flag again'. To me it's got a very patriotic look. Of course I got the flag wrong in my hurry to rush into stereotypes about flag-revering Americans.
Re:Logos of the candidate cities for the 2016 Olympics by patio11 on Monday August 24, 2009 @04:36AM (#781757)
Your friendly neighborhood flag-revering American has a suggestion for you: there are two design elements of note on an American flag. The first is the color scheme: red, white, and blue. The second is the motif: stars (generally plural, number mostly unimportant although it is canonically 50) and stripes (generally plural, number mostly unimportant although it is canonically 13).

If it doesn't have all three of red, white, and blue or both of stars and stripes, the designer almost certainly wasn't going for an American flag. For example, the overwhelming majority of Americans would not connect a white star and a blue star paired together as recognizably American.

American flag iconography also tends to use wavy lines, for the "flag fluttering in the breeze" effect. Additionally, it overwhelmingly features the flag oriented horizontally with the blue bits in the top left.

For a good example of modern American flag iconography, see the Obama O logo (which is, incidentally, probably the best logo I have ever seen in politics or otherwise, and I say that as a Republican). You don't remember McCain's campaign logo (that's a statement, not a question, nobody remembers it) but it had a Navy Star rather than a flag at its centerpiece.

Sorry, I get a kick out of this stuff. Tangent over.

Re:Logos of the candidate cities for the 2016 Olympics by tspiteri on Monday August 24, 2009 @09:52AM (#782103)
The number of stars is not arbitrary, it is equal to the number of states. In fact the US flag has been changed whenever states joined the union. Before Hawaii's statehood in 1960, the flag had 49 stars.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usa_flag#Historical_progression...

Re:Logos of the candidate cities for the 2016 Olympics by scott_s on Monday August 24, 2009 @10:50AM (#782238)
I think the parent knows that the number of starts on the American flag is not arbitrary. He is, however, talking about icons and pictures where someone deliberately invokes the American flag. In that case, a few stars is enough to get the idea across.
Re:Logos of the candidate cities for the 2016 Olympics by Luc on Monday August 24, 2009 @04:55AM (#781778)
Well, that's the more sophisticated view of course. To me it looks like something on a poster for a movie about Navy jet fighter pilots.

The US Navy star design: http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevestr/434646324/in/set-72157...

Re:Logos of the candidate cities for the 2016 Olympics by kqr2 on Monday August 24, 2009 @03:44AM (#781713)
From the designer of the Chicago Logo:

The Chicago 2016 logo blends the colors of the five Olympic rings surrounding the city’s six-pointed star, evoking serene blue lakefront, vibrant green landscape and fiery skyline. It also evokes Chicago’s Games concept—to host compact Olympic Games celebrated in the center of the city, along the lakefront and in the city’s parks.

http://vsapartners.com/news.asp?article=71