News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Apple Confirms Its $3 Billion Deal for Beats Electronics by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @05:26PM (#7813077)
The meat of this deal is the headphones business [1]. I'm opining on the transaction's optionality for Apple. A lot of attention has been given to the streaming service. I'm pointing out another joker Apple may have considered to hold, if not immediately play.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7812793

Re:Apple Confirms Its $3 Billion Deal for Beats Electronics by abalone on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @06:33PM (#7813390)
The main evidence you give in support of that claim is that the service doesn't have a lot of customers. But that is true for literally just about every other Apple acquisition. Apple buys technology and talent in the early stages or in component form. Like Tim Cook said there's 70+ other examples of tech & talent acquisitions to look at, and this is just another one of them.

It makes sense financially for Apple, sure, but only in the sense that it doesn't lose them money to purchase the attached headphones business. That business would not even register as a blip in their future growth to be the main goal of the deal.

His other quote was how he was looking forward to Iovine & Dre working on revolutionizing the music industry. That's not about headphones.

Re:Apple Confirms Its $3 Billion Deal for Beats Electronics by stcredzero on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @05:53PM (#7813202)
How did you arrive at the 15% margin figure?
Re:Apple Confirms Its $3 Billion Deal for Beats Electronics by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @06:01PM (#7813252)
($3 billion purchase price [1] / 14.9x AAPL P/E ratio [2]) / $1.3 billion 2013 Beats headphone sales [3].

We are asking how much in earnings (E) would Beats need to earn to give a $3 billion price (P) no more than a 14.9x P/E ratio. We then turn those minimum earnings E and turn them into a quick-and-dirty margin by dividing E by sales.

[1] http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/29/technology/apple-confirms-...

[2] https://www.google.com/finance?q=aapl&ei=_0qGU5C_BabzsgeenYH...

[3] http://nypost.com/2014/05/27/apple-cuts-purchase-price-of-be...