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Re:Python 3 can revive Python by sergiosgc on Tuesday May 27, 2014 @11:26AM (#7804936)
You know that "the people who call Go a systems programming language" are its authors, do you not?
Re:Python 3 can revive Python by haberman on Tuesday May 27, 2014 @12:05PM (#7805145)
Yes, but they are also the ones being surprised that Go is cannibalizing Python, not C or C++.

They are smart guys, so I can only conclude that "systems programming" means something different to them than it does to many other systems programmers.

To me, "no imposed GC" is a non-negotiable element of being a systems programming language. So I am far more drawn to Rust than Go.

Re:Python 3 can revive Python by coolsunglasses on Wednesday May 28, 2014 @02:30AM (#7808665)
They actually dropped the "systems" bit on the home page because people told them it wasn't a systems language.

"Systems" in Rob/Ken's time was services/servers - what we call applications these days.

Re:Python 3 can revive Python by coldtea on Tuesday May 27, 2014 @12:01PM (#7805125)
You know that they retracted that line from the Go introduction text on the webpage, don't you?

And of course, them being Go's authors and them being wrong on characterizing it, is in no way contradictory.

Re:Python 3 can revive Python by sergiosgc on Tuesday May 27, 2014 @12:41PM (#7805340)
http://golang.org/doc/faq#What_is_the_purpose_of_the_project

« No major systems language has emerged in over a decade, but over that time the computing landscape has changed tremendously.

(...)

We believe it's worth trying again with a new language, a concurrent, garbage-collected language with fast compilation. Regarding the points above [cut on edit]:

* It is possible to compile a large Go program in a few seconds on a single computer.

* Go provides a model for software construction that makes dependency analysis easy and avoids much of the overhead of C-style include files and libraries.

* Go's type system has no hierarchy, so no time is spent defining the relationships between types. Also, although Go has static types the language attempts to make types feel lighter weight than in typical OO languages.

* Go is fully garbage-collected and provides fundamental support for concurrent execution and communication.

* By its design, Go proposes an approach for the construction of system software on multicore machines. »

It is still at the forefront of the language presentation.