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Re:End Mass Incarceration Now by mynameishere on Sunday May 25, 2014 @07:49PM (#7798047)
even when there is no evidence that imprisoning more people has reduced crime by more than a small amount.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Violent_crime_rates_by_gen...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Property_Crime_Rates_in_th...

The ny times editorial board is either living in a dream world, or is willfully lying and actually wants a return to the levels of property and violent crime from 40 years ago.

Re:End Mass Incarceration Now by jwoah12 on Sunday May 25, 2014 @07:54PM (#7798064)
Nice graphs, but where is the evidence linking those trends to higher incarceration rates?
Re:End Mass Incarceration Now by ShardPhoenix on Sunday May 25, 2014 @08:30PM (#7798169)
There's also been a fall in other Western countries that don't have the same level of incarceration.
Re:End Mass Incarceration Now by eruditely on Sunday May 25, 2014 @07:55PM (#7798068)
Unleaded gasoline/Abortion, and for the part where violent crime is caused by a large minority there is still a massive population that is just incarcerated for no good reason and will not contribute. That population is huge. Save them.
Re:End Mass Incarceration Now by DougWebb on Sunday May 25, 2014 @08:10PM (#7798118)
Here's a Mother Jones article discussing the correlation between the rise and fall of leaded gasoline usage and the rise and fall of violent crime during the 20th century.

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/01/lead-crime-li...

Re:End Mass Incarceration Now by JacobJans on Sunday May 25, 2014 @08:01PM (#7798094)
For those interested, here is the section of the study that discusses "The Crime Prevention Effects of Incarceration."

http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=18613&page=130

Re:End Mass Incarceration Now by gcd on Sunday May 25, 2014 @08:51PM (#7798213)
When recidivism rates are so high (67%), I highly doubt that locking more people up is, in the long run, going to reduce crime better than methods which actually attack the root cause of crime.
Re:End Mass Incarceration Now by enraged_camel on Sunday May 25, 2014 @08:31PM (#7798171)
Cool, you established causation. Next step is to show that crime rates decreased because of mass incarceration and not a plethora of other factors.

(Good luck, you'll need it.)

Re:End Mass Incarceration Now by argumentum on Sunday May 25, 2014 @08:40PM (#7798186)
I think you meant "correlation"?
Re:End Mass Incarceration Now by enraged_camel on Sunday May 25, 2014 @10:46PM (#7798464)
Yep. Edit window passed, so I can't fix it!
Re:End Mass Incarceration Now by nodemaker on Sunday May 25, 2014 @08:00PM (#7798091)
You need to read Freakonomics!