Re:Johammer J1: First serial electric motorcycle with reach ...
by zachrose on Thursday May 22, 2014 @09:32PM
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Without the fairing and controls, the J1 looks pretty rad. I'm guessing they get to 200km with some specific aerodynamics, but I'd really like to see a naked/clubman/streetfighter version.
I fill it once every 2 weeks and get about 200km for $20AUD. I could probably get more but i can't help but strap it everywhere. It also takes less than a minute to fill the tank, and about the same to pay the cashier.
Re:Johammer J1: First serial electric motorcycle with reach ...
by jmtame on Thursday May 22, 2014 @11:18PM
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Ugh, I love the concept of electric but we saw what happened with cars. You have to make these look as good if not better than the existing motorcycles for this to take off. These look awful aesthetically. I own a gsxr 600 and I would definitely upgrade to electric and pay more but the bike has to look awesome.
Re:Johammer J1: First serial electric motorcycle with reach ...
by djuggler on Sunday May 25, 2014 @09:13AM
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"we saw what happened with cars"
What does that mean? I drive a Leaf and its the best car I've ever driven. I've practically forgotten how to pump gas and the only maintenance I have is tire rotations and brake pad changes.
Re:Johammer J1: First serial electric motorcycle with reach ...
by a8da6b0c91d on Thursday May 22, 2014 @10:58PM
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Electric is less compelling for motorcycles from the get-go because you can easily get ludicrous gasoline fuel efficiency. A conservatively driven 650cc bike can get 60+ mpg. There are hobbyist diesel motorcycles that get crazy mileage.
This of course hints at the major problem with car efficiency, which is excess weight. Federal safety mandates have made cars way more heavy than they used to be, so that despite 20% improvements in engine efficiency modern gasoline cars merely match the cars of 30 years yore. The big culprit, from what I gather, is the roll safety requirement. Take a hacksaw and welder to a modern sedan and electric doesn't really make much sense. Gasoline is still the way to go.
Re:Johammer J1: First serial electric motorcycle with reach ...
by thrownaway2424 on Thursday May 22, 2014 @11:37PM
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I know a guy who has an electric motorcycle (a zero) and while I'm sure it's fine for going around town, it's crap for pleasure. He's always proposing weekend rides that, of course, happen to pass by charging stations where we will be required to spend a multi-hour lunch. Definitely does not fit in with my idea of what a motorcycle is for. If I want to take short urban trips I'd just as soon use a bicycle.
Plus, they look like traditional motorcycles, which is a big bonus in my eyes.
I fill it once every 2 weeks and get about 200km for $20AUD. I could probably get more but i can't help but strap it everywhere. It also takes less than a minute to fill the tank, and about the same to pay the cashier.
I can kind of see where they were going with the design - its harping back to classic designs of the 1950's - but its no Morgan http://www.morgan3wheeler.co.uk/desktopindex.html
All that said, Johammer certainly looks interesting.
It felt fast enough, but was by no means the fastest bike around. I can't imagine less than a quarter of that power being enough.
This of course hints at the major problem with car efficiency, which is excess weight. Federal safety mandates have made cars way more heavy than they used to be, so that despite 20% improvements in engine efficiency modern gasoline cars merely match the cars of 30 years yore. The big culprit, from what I gather, is the roll safety requirement. Take a hacksaw and welder to a modern sedan and electric doesn't really make much sense. Gasoline is still the way to go.