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Re:We lost the war. Welcome to the world of tomorrow (2006) by ciudadanox on Thursday May 22, 2014 @07:00AM (#7783167)
Definitely things are different over here, laws are very negative for new organizations but we are in the way of achieving same results by the end of 2015. We have started much later and we have avoid any populism in all ways, we don't want someone like Beppe Grillo leading us because we are organized in network without leaders. Even though they are a great example that citizens well organized can achieved great things aside traditional parties.

Also, since 2008 main parties in Spain had already lost over 10 million votes(in 35 million total) so we know we are in the right place an the right moment.

TV is still the main source of information for people and it's taken completely by main parties. However in social networks we are already winning, in just 1 years we already have more fans than main parties and people talks about us.

We will have to wait until December 2015 to show this change in a election

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Re:We lost the war. Welcome to the world of tomorrow (2006) by rett12 on Thursday May 22, 2014 @08:56AM (#7783560)
The problem is that by the end of 2015 the situation in Spain could improve(I really don't see that happening and if it happens is because the improvement in Europe is dragging Spain). Also in the elections of 2011 the main parties lost almost 4 million votes (from 21.5 to 17.8 million). http://resultados.elpais.com/elecciones/generales.html But it's true that the projections seem to show that trend, still both parties get +60% votes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_S...

> TV is still the main source of information for people and it's taken completely by main parties. However in social networks we are already winning, in just 1 years we already have more fans than main parties and people talks about us.

Social networks are used mainly by young people, and Spain is an old society.

>(...) because we are organized in network without leaders.

I have yet to see a country without leaders and a large well organized group of anything without leaders. It's really naive.

Nonetheless Spain needs people that starts changing things (like your group), and everything can change by Dec 2015 but I'm not optimistic.

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