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Re:Young people 'feel they have nothing to live for' by x0x0 on Friday May 16, 2014 @03:29AM (#7754196)
Underemployment doesn't just come from inappropriate people going to college. I don't have the graphs in front of me, but if you look at jobs as a whole we have a mediocre recovery from the great recession but if you look at the types of jobs it's horrid. That is, white collar jobs where lost and service jobs where gained. So it's more than just people's perceptions.

This is compounded by the republican ideology of transferring risks from the state to the individual. My alma mater cost $3.2k/year in tuition in the late 90s, and now costs $9.4k/year (numbers not inflation adjusted). According to the cpi inflation calculator, tuition has roughly doubled [1]. But that's not all -- course loads are now heavy enough that it can be very difficult to get required classes when needed, and because of sequencing requirements for your major classes it's very easy to accidentally get stuck for an extra 1-2 semesters because you couldn't get the course you needed because of reduced course offerings. Assuming you spend $10/year for books + living expenses, leaving college with ~$40k in debt is significant.

[1] http://www.bls.gov/data/inflation_calculator.htm

Re:Young people 'feel they have nothing to live for' by greatbigtable on Friday May 16, 2014 @03:25PM (#7757432)
I graduated from my undergrad quite a while ago with around fifty thousand in borrowed debt. I made sure to only take what I absolutely needed and maintained various part time jobs throughout.

When I had my exit interview, the financial aid counselor asked if I knew how much I had borrowed. I told her what I knew it to be. She laughed and said that I was probably wrong as most students have no idea how much debt they have accrued.

I asked her to recheck the paperwork because I had been keeping record of how much I borrowed and only borrowed the minimum that I was eligible for throughout my college career. When she looked at my file, she made an embarrassed apology and said that she must have confused me with someone else and that her experience was that most students didn't know their full debt burden.

My wife and I paid it off in five years. We were lucky, though. We were married in our last year of school and were used to living with few luxuries. We decided to keep living as simply even though we were lucky enough to both get jobs not long after graduating. We read all the requirements and prepayment guidelines and followed them to the letter which helped knock the time down tremendously. When we got within a couple thousand, my in-laws paid off the rest with a no-interest loan that they made to us.

Not everyone has those circumstances, I know, but the biggest realization was if we would be okay with living well below our means for a few years, we would be better off in the end. I have friends that I think are still paying off loans due to deferments, unemployment, and amount they received.

Re:Young people 'feel they have nothing to live for' by zacinbusiness on Friday May 16, 2014 @03:46AM (#7754263)
There were programs in my uni that got dissolved before people had matriculated. Students who had several semesters of courses under their belts were left out in the cold and had to try to rig their courses into other programs as electives or transfer. It was awful.
Re:Young people 'feel they have nothing to live for' by greatbigtable on Friday May 16, 2014 @03:06PM (#7757312)
My wife was a college advisor and had students keep copies of the college handbook that was published the year a student started in a major. She would hammer home that it was their "contract" with the university and had students use it to good effect when they argued against changes to the graduation requirements mid-program.

I don't know if it would work for everyone, but it is worth a shot and can't hurt to just have that stored away when you appeal to your university.

Re:Young people 'feel they have nothing to live for' by sentenza on Friday May 16, 2014 @03:52AM (#7754283)
Would you mind to name and shame that university? I've often heared of programs being dissolved, but always with a "we won't stop operation until the last matriculated person has been given enough time to graduate at average speed" grace period.
Re:Young people 'feel they have nothing to live for' by zacinbusiness on Friday May 16, 2014 @04:03AM (#7754316)
I'm very loyal to my department because they were awesome and extremely supportive (luckily we survived the axe), so I don't want to shame the whole university. But it's a medium-sized school in the South East of the US and it's run by an alarmingly incompetent chancellor.
Re:Young people 'feel they have nothing to live for' by will_work4tears on Friday May 16, 2014 @09:42AM (#7755422)
Yeah, my alma mater looks to be be right between 10 and 11k a year for tuition (28 credit hours a year assumed), and books and living expense puts that even higher.

I ended up with around 80k in loans, but I was dumb about my living expenses (I went to college in my late 20s, and had a certain living standard I wanted to maintain, which was a mistake).