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Re:Notes on Programming in C (1989) by icantthinkofone on Sunday May 11, 2014 @09:13AM (#7728623)
> This is a ridiculous stance, in my opinion.

I always find it humorous to find posters here and reddit and other boards say these things and I believe they would make the same statement about the Ten Commandments from God.

Re:Notes on Programming in C (1989) by Peaker on Sunday May 11, 2014 @09:34AM (#7728668)
Yes, at least a few of the Ten Commandments from God are ridiculous. What's your point?
Re:Notes on Programming in C (1989) by icantthinkofone on Sunday May 11, 2014 @09:42AM (#7728687)
My point is most people could learn a lot from him and aren't in the position to make claims against him.
Re:Notes on Programming in C (1989) by Peaker on Sunday May 11, 2014 @12:15PM (#7729022)
There are plenty of things Rob says I strongly disagree with, and even if you're very impressed with his work, your comment is still a very silly appeal to authority.
Re:Notes on Programming in C (1989) by icantthinkofone on Sunday May 11, 2014 @01:38PM (#7729268)
In this life, you must find someone to believe in. Dismissing this as a "silly appeal to authority" is even sillier.
Re:Notes on Programming in C (1989) by Peaker on Sunday May 11, 2014 @06:26PM (#7730270)
I have plenty of people I believe in. In the sense that almost whatever they say, I'd think really really hard before disagreeing. Even then, if I find them unconvincing, I'll eventually disagree.

I personally don't hold Rob to be such a figure. I believe he's quite ignorant when it comes to many important topics in computer science (e.g: he made some comments that make it clear he does not understand parametric polymorphism). I find his work on Go to be a minor variant of Algol69 (and not necessarily an improvement, at that!), throwing away 40 years of real improvements in PLT.

Re:Notes on Programming in C (1989) by yohanatan on Sunday May 11, 2014 @08:47PM (#7730661)
I'm not a fan of Go, its syntax, or Rob Pike in the slightest but aren't go-routines as first-class/ default at least an improvement over most Algol-derived languages' support for concurrent execution models?

In the final analysis, this is hardly enough to convince me to use the language (as I've never found concurrency difficult in any other language to begin with and there are better ways than go-routines to make it 'easy'); however, I'm probably not in the target audience.

My impression is that Pike is endeavoring to create for his new corporate overlords a language that fungible enterprise developers can be at home in. And, it probably is better than Java.

Re:Notes on Programming in C (1989) by yohanatan on Sunday May 11, 2014 @02:29PM (#7729422)
Maybe you need someone to believe in. Stronger minds decide for themselves (interestingly enough which is the advice given by Rob in the intro of this article).
Re:Notes on Programming in C (1989) by icantthinkofone on Sunday May 11, 2014 @03:19PM (#7729586)
A strong mind listens to others who may be smarter than themselves and have more experience and doesn't worry about who the stronger mind is.
Re:Notes on Programming in C (1989) by yohanatan on Sunday May 11, 2014 @08:36PM (#7730631)
I think you've merely re-stated my point. A strong, independent mind makes determinations on ideas objectively without respect to the sources of those ideas.

And, I find Rob Pike completely unimpressive. I would suggest that you find other folks smarter than yourself (and preferably smarter than Rob as well) to blindly follow (if that is your thing).

Re:Notes on Programming in C (1989) by icantthinkofone on Sunday May 11, 2014 @11:28PM (#7731074)
And now you've just proven my point.
Re:Notes on Programming in C (1989) by yohanatan on Monday May 12, 2014 @01:22AM (#7731317)
I think you're confused. What is your point exactly? This whole discussion has been about how your original post was a baseless appeal to authority (which you still seem intent to make). My point is merely: if that is your sort of thing, then you can find someone better than Rob Pike to fill the role. How is this in any way the same point that you yourself are making?