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Re:What you’d need to make in every county in the US to affo... by danielweber on Tuesday April 22, 2014 @04:25PM (#7630189)
When I hear words like "decent" I check for my wallet. When I was at a start-up making very below-average wages (in the Boston area, in fact), I lived in a very below-average place.
Re:What you’d need to make in every county in the US to affo... by dustcoin on Tuesday April 22, 2014 @05:36PM (#7630629)
Agreed. It isn't surprising that a minimum wage worker would have trouble affording 40th percentile housing (the basis for the pricing data).
Re:What you’d need to make in every county in the US to affo... by adregan on Tuesday April 22, 2014 @05:23PM (#7630541)
Yes, but you had the expectation that things would get better (and I'm assuming you had the skills to make much more).

My friends who aren't involved in the tech industry have quite a long row to hoe when it comes to making more money. I had a friend (who loves cooking and is accomplished in restaurant work) struggle to find anything above $13-15 an hour in NYC (and that's hard work at a busy restaurant), and it doesn't often get better than that.

For some, living in below average accommodations isn't a necessary stop along the way but the destination, and that stinks.

Re:What you’d need to make in every county in the US to affo... by danielweber on Wednesday April 23, 2014 @09:30AM (#7633792)
Your first paragraph is something important, but not what I was talking about, and not related to the rest of your comment.

First, as long as money has any meaning, people with more of it are going to live better than people with less of it. Maybe it would be more fair if all young people lived below average and all older people lived above average, but it's a huge reconstruction of society.

Second, NYC is the fifth most expensive city in the world[1]. I presume your friend is there because he's getting something besides money for his work -- adulation of customers, or a chance to make it really big.

Or, it's a deliberate consumption choice. He wants to live in walking distance of Broadway and great restaurants. Well, that's a choice in how he spends his money. I could live in a mansion in my city and complain about how expensive it is, but I shouldn't expect any sympathy because I choose to live someplace expensive. I could deliberately have 8 kids and then complain about how much times my kids require, or I could be a Olympic gymnast and complain about how much training I have to do, or I could keep a cluster of 40 PCs in my living room to play 40 simultaneous WoW games and then complain about how much it all costs.

There's nothing magical about consumption choices because they go into "housing" versus "free time" or "computers" or "nights at the opera." If someone was renting the most expensive cars in the US and complaining about how he can't afford something, the answer would be very similar to another person who was renting the most expensive real estate in the US.

Living on top of Mount Everest is expensive, even if you were born there.

[1] http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/internationalproperty/10... NYC is the most expensive in the US. Of course rankings change over time.

Re:What you’d need to make in every county in the US to affo... by qq66 on Tuesday April 22, 2014 @05:48PM (#7630712)
50% of people live in below-average accommodations.
Re:What you’d need to make in every county in the US to affo... by habitue on Tuesday April 22, 2014 @05:55PM (#7630738)
No, 50% of people live in below-median accommodations.
Re:What you’d need to make in every county in the US to affo... by lifeisstillgood on Tuesday April 22, 2014 @04:31PM (#7630232)
But you would not want to send your children to school in a very below average school ... which may or may not be the point.
Re:What you’d need to make in every county in the US to affo... by tthomas48 on Tuesday April 22, 2014 @04:40PM (#7630294)
It just means that they don't include buildings that are falling apart, nor do they include penthouse flats. Texas and Louisiana both have lots of dark purple and have the very worst public schools in the nation. It's really just a pretty good indication of where the jobs are.
Re:What you’d need to make in every county in the US to affo... by danielweber on Tuesday April 22, 2014 @05:06PM (#7630447)
Nearly by definition, someone has to go to very below average schools, and someone has to live in the very below average housing.

The first situation is more scary than the second, of course. Being young and single and in good health with no kids it was fine living below average.