> There are "shell" laptops that look and function like any other laptop, but they're just shells.
Can you elaborate on that ? If the look like and function like any other laptops aren't they simply laptops ?
The best scam I have seen for this booted linux off a USB flash built into the "laptop" deep down and inside and they gave you a VNC session to a nearby beefy Windows XP running on dual cores and 4GB (these particular guys were caught after I pulled out the ethernet, but I would have paid them a grand in cash if they had the foresight to add a wifi card.) The laptop itself is probably some kind of cheap ARM processor with 128 megs. Others have been ancient laptops put into a brand new case and the Windows OS hexedited to oblivion to report larger resources (this is even trivial when the sellers are pretending to be Lenovo employees; they say it has no OS and they can boot the machine to BIOS, show you the resources it has and peripherals but until it fails to find and OS in the MBR; yyyyeah, you just been looking at a "demo"; the power button has been rigged to replay a video; press ALT-TAB and you will end up in Windows 98 Media Player.)
P.S. If you suspect a scam don't call them out on it. Just say you have no money and walk away. Most of these "criminals" are just unemployed laborers working for a local mafia anyway, no need to make the poor guy lose face.
Wow! Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo!
You have to hand them kudos for being creative though :)
Reminds me of a video compression box I was asked to inspect for an investor in the mid 80's.
Most Chinese electronics companies are in Southern China, but you will have to be a veteran to know where specific specialties congregate. There is nothing in Guangzhou, at least not computer or multimedia electronic gadgets; but you find everything else in GZ. DongGuan is mostly textiles, heavy machinery and manufacturing equipment; I wouldn't trust a company based in DG to sell me a netbook. Avoid Hong Kong by all means, you will be paying premium for someone to take the 40 minute KCR train to ShenZhen.
Laptops are extremely expensive in China because of local demand. In fact, I exported IBM Thinkpads from U.S. to China at handsome profit. There are "shell" laptops that look and function like any other laptop, but they're just shells. The Chinese are excellent at making flash-memory based gadgets, but their harddisk based gadgets have plenty of catching up to do (we bought Chinese stuff and fitted them with harddisks in our houses in London and New York)
Most good Chinese companies can afford sales staff with excellent English communication skills. Though they're not always proficient, the professional sales stuff are polished and know their industry inside and out. Scammers, OTOH, usually have impeccable English but are not professionals; legit sales people will try to talk trash about a competition, while a scammer will tell you he can offer you his competition's products as well. Legit salesmen don't make decisions on the spot. If you tell them you want a container of this products, they will ask you if they can come back with an answer. Scammers have an enviable 'can do' attitude.
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Face, face, face! Don't lose face and don't cause someone else to lose face. Every word you say will be remembered and will be held against you; don't hint at a huge order unless you're going to place it. Your salesman is counting on a commission, and if he knows he has a big order coming he might just spend his few hundred last kuwais trying to impress you and host you for lavish dinners (and if you're not there, he will pre-invest that money in another client of his, treating him to expensive nights out.)
It's better to low-ball your ambitions and earn their respect when you place a huge order.
A legit company's salesman will probably be asking about your budget and MOQs right of the bat. That's how you can tell scammers, they're happy to sell you a "sample" and offer to deliver it DHL. If your legit company does free shipping, they will certainly don't wanna do DHL or FedEx or anything that expensive; if your margins are good enough pay for the shipping yourself.
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