Re:Ayaan Hirsi Ali: Enlightened intolerance
by duncan_bayne on Monday April 21, 2014 @04:38PM
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Saleem, you are dodging the question. Every major school of Islamic jurisprudence agrees on the death penalty for apostasy. Certainly there is some opposition but it is far from mainstream, and in a distinct minority. The states that punish apostasy are clearly acting in accordance with Islamic law.
I'll ask again: can you cite a school of jurisprudence that opposes the death penalty for apostasy?
So are we to understand that when your prophet did this, he was wrong ? That he is not part of your religion ?
How exactly does your argument work ? The islamic prophet killed people for apostacy. That's a fact, confirmed by both islamic and non-islamic historical sources. In fact he massacred an entire city for that.
So answer the simple question : was that wrong ? Is it okay to kill individuals or massacre cities for apostacy ? If he was wrong, then is there any islamic religion at all ?
Re:Ayaan Hirsi Ali: Enlightened intolerance
by duncan_bayne on Wednesday April 23, 2014 @10:05PM
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You won't get a reply; Saleem is either a troll, or practicing taqiyya ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya ).
Regardless of whether or not you decide to dismiss these positions as out of the orthodox, it's a logical fallacy to assume that because some Muslim-majority states implement some of the penal code describe in Islam, that any activity by these states is somehow part of or sanctioned by the religion.