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A comment on Reference Note on Russian Communications Surveillance.

Re:Reference Note on Russian Communications Surveillance by dmix on Monday April 21, 2014 @12:35PM (#7621932)
So basically Russia doesn't bother pretending it's not doing domestic surveillance. They don't need to join something like a Five-eyes partnership to get around their own legal limitations. They don't need other countries hacking into their routers or tapping fiber (therefore increasing the insecurity of their domestic networks), instead they are installing their own monitoring devices, albeit at probably a much wider scale than a foreign SIGINT partner could achieve.
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Re:Reference Note on Russian Communications Surveillance by ihsw on Monday April 21, 2014 @12:52PM (#7622026)
You may be correct that the Kremlin doesn't bother with legal ballet and literary gymnastics in the same manner that the White House does, but they are similarly blatant and tight-lipped in their activities.

However the usage of such 'black boxes' that vacuum up packets is just as prevalent in the US as it is in Russia.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/justinesharrock/what-is-that-box-whe...

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Re:Reference Note on Russian Communications Surveillance by webjprgm on Monday April 21, 2014 @12:57PM (#7622070)
If the law says they can do it, and that's what they do, then they still have the moral upper hand over USA where the law says they can't or at least is gray area yet they still do it.
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Re:Reference Note on Russian Communications Surveillance by devconsole on Monday April 21, 2014 @01:09PM (#7622175)
Not really. They don't have a way to change their laws. It's Putin's Russia.
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Re:Reference Note on Russian Communications Surveillance by ZenPro on Monday April 21, 2014 @01:19PM (#7622251)
Neither does the USA according to the Oligarchy Report being reported across the Western media.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/21/americas-oli...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1...

http://www.princeton.edu/~mgilens/Gilens%20homepage%20materi...

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Re:Reference Note on Russian Communications Surveillance by devconsole on Monday April 21, 2014 @01:25PM (#7622289)
If that were strictly true, then SOPA would have passed.
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Re:Reference Note on Russian Communications Surveillance by ZenPro on Monday April 21, 2014 @01:34PM (#7622357)
How is the temporary shelving of SOPA proof that on over 1700 policy issues US citizens have essentially zero chance of affecting the outcome of the legislation?

As for SOPA - say hello to SOPA 2.0 http://www.uspto.gov/news/publications/copyrightgreenpaper.p...

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Re:Reference Note on Russian Communications Surveillance by tzs on Monday April 21, 2014 @01:43PM (#7622424)
How is that SOPA 2.0?
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Re:Reference Note on Russian Communications Surveillance by ZenPro on Tuesday April 22, 2014 @03:09AM (#7626226)
Try reading it. Or at least searching for the report which is commonly referred to as SOPA 2.0 by various opposition groups.

In essence however, SOPA in some form will pass and this document represents a new approach.

As someone posted before - it does not matter if it is SOPA 14.0 or SOPA 22.0 - it just needs to pass once. Very few examples of legislative repeal exist outside of social equality.

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Re:Reference Note on Russian Communications Surveillance by chenelson on Monday April 21, 2014 @04:35PM (#7623628)
The report didn't claim the great Corporation of the Elites are omniscient and omnipotent; just that 'they' owned all Intellectual Property rights, and that We, the People, must offer remittance for air.
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Re:Reference Note on Russian Communications Surveillance by ZenPro on Tuesday April 22, 2014 @03:10AM (#7626234)
Agreed. It is actually a really bleak and depressing read; I am certain the UK is not much different at all.

Future dystopian writers can certainly draw upon it as a non-fiction source.

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Re:Reference Note on Russian Communications Surveillance by mtrimpe on Monday April 21, 2014 @03:41PM (#7623189)
Yup. Just like South Africa had the moral upper hand because they maintained official segregation laws when in the US it was illegal by law but still a de-facto practice through social bias.
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Re:Reference Note on Russian Communications Surveillance by drdaeman on Monday April 21, 2014 @01:13PM (#7622205)
Not exactly.

Contrary to NSA story (who are known to collect data without court orders), we have no information on SORM-2 abuse at all. It's unknown whenever in absence of active court warrants those boxes are just idling on a rack dropping packets or do something they're not (legally) supposed to do.

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